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::When Christian guardians shape a baptized infant's soul toward justice, he or she is justified from original vice and spiritually regenerated. —Thomas Aquinas (paraphrase). [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Thursday, 16:50, 7 May 2020 (EDT)
::When Christian guardians shape a baptized infant's soul toward justice, he or she is justified from original vice and spiritually regenerated. —Thomas Aquinas (paraphrase). [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Thursday, 16:50, 7 May 2020 (EDT)
:::So this is some sort of nonconsensual salvation? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Live Free or Die]]</sup> 16:55, 7 May 2020 (EDT)
:::So this is some sort of nonconsensual salvation? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Live Free or Die]]</sup> 16:55, 7 May 2020 (EDT)
::Aquinas: Infants aren't capable of the movement of free choice, [but if they are loved, and are treated with enough patience, they have the calmness for the movement of choice to begin as well as the shaping of justice as is about to be described]. God moves the infant to justice [through the guardians, as understood by the guardians' faith, and led by their hope in Christ], by outward sign, allowing the infant to be baptized. The [leading hope in Christ by] outward sign is necessary because original vice is not willed by the infant, but is from carnal generation, and the infant is justified from it [by the shaped movements of justice, as described, through leading hope], and neither is grace (or favor at Christ's expense), but [by the shaped movements of justice, as described, through leading hope,] the infant receives spiritual regeneration by Christ. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Thursday, 18:12, 7 May 2020 (EDT)
::Aquinas: Infants aren't capable of the movement of free choice, [but if they are loved, and are treated with enough patience, they have the calmness for the movement of choice to begin as well as the shaping of justice as is about to be described]. God moves the infant to justice [through the guardians, as understood by the guardians' faith, and led by their hope in Christ], by outward sign, allowing the infant to be baptized. The [leading hope in Christ by] outward sign is necessary because original vice is not willed by the infant, but is from carnal generation, and the infant is justified from it [by the shaped movements of justice, as described, through leading hope], and neither is grace (or favor at Christ's expense), but [by the shaped movements of justice, as described, through leading hope,] the infant receives spiritual regeneration by Christ through grace. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Thursday, 18:12, 7 May 2020 (EDT)