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:::Exodus 33: ''And the LORD said unto Moses, I will do this thing also that thou hast spoken: for '''thou hast found grace in my sight'''''

:::Exodus 33: ''And the LORD said unto Moses, I will do this thing also that thou hast spoken: for '''thou hast found grace in my sight'''''

:::''Behold, '''there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock'''''  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]} 12:49, 30 October 2019 (EDT)

:::''Behold, '''there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock'''''  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]} 12:49, 30 October 2019 (EDT)

::::God also told Moses, "My face you shall not see, for no one can see my face and live" (Exodus 33:18-23). Moses and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel went up on the mountain, and they did see the God of Israel up on the top of the peak, but only from a distance, not up close (Exodus 24:9-11). Abuse of the statement that Moses talked with God "face to face" has been competently answered by qualified biblical scholars as a Semitic expression of intimate friendship of communion, not a pre-incarnate appearance of Jesus face to face, nor a direct visual encounter of the [[Beatific vision]]. These scholars also explain that the "gospel" preached to Israel in the wilderness of Sanai was not the Christian revelation, but the good news in the law revealed to Moses explaining the rewards of obedience "if you obey my word". That message included the promise of a Prophet to come. <br> In answer to the challenge of reconciling Moses and John – Take a look at the commentaries on [http://biblehub.com/commentaries/deuteronomy/5-4.htm Deuteronomy 5:4 "The L<small>ORD</small> spoke with you face to face at the mountain, out of the midst of fire."] Their answer is mine also. Moses beheld the presence of the Lord, and spoke with Him "face to face", but he did not see the face of God. The scholars have explained all this. I agree with them. The challenge to reconcile Moses and John has been met and answered already. Their response is my response as well. This makes me and them "competent to explain" the scriptures according to "the mind of Christ".

::::God also told Moses, "My face you shall not see, for no one can see my face and live" (Exodus 33:18-23). Moses and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel went up on the mountain, and they did see the God of Israel up on the top of the peak, but only from a distance, not up close (Exodus 24:9-11). Abuse of the statement that Moses talked with God "face to face" has been competently answered by qualified biblical scholars as a Semitic expression of intimate friendship of communion, not a pre-incarnate appearance of Jesus face to face, nor a direct visual encounter of the [[Beatific vision]]. These scholars also explain that the "gospel" preached to Israel in the wilderness of Sanai was not the Christian revelation, but the good news in the law revealed to Moses explaining the rewards of obedience "if you obey my word". That message included the promise of a Prophet to come. <br> In answer to the challenge of reconciling Moses and John – Take a look at the commentaries on [http://biblehub.com/commentaries/deuteronomy/5-4.htm Deuteronomy 5:4 "The L<small>ORD</small> spoke with you face to face at the mountain, out of the midst of fire."] Their answer is mine also. Moses beheld the presence of the Lord, and spoke with Him "face to face", but he did not see the face of God. The scholars have explained all this. I agree with them. The challenge to reconcile Moses and John has been met and answered already. Their response is my response as well. This makes me and them "competent to explain" the scriptures according to "the mind of Christ". {{unsigned|User:Dataclarifier}}

:::::That's your response?

:::::That's your response?

:::::*Mark 7:13 ''Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.''  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]} 15:58, 30 October 2019 (EDT)

:::::*Mark 7:13 ''Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.''  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]} 15:58, 30 October 2019 (EDT)