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::::The idea of transubstantiation, as XavierNishant presented it, presupposes the premise that the Holy Sacraments are sacrifices.
 
::::The idea of transubstantiation, as XavierNishant presented it, presupposes the premise that the Holy Sacraments are sacrifices.
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::::I have: "He has achieved the eternal perfection of all whom he is sanctifying." (NJB) In Greek, the word for ''perfection'' is τελειότητα ''teleiotes'', which is different from the English use, meaning perfect ''for the purpose for which it was intended.''
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::::I have: "He has achieved the eternal perfection of all whom he is sanctifying." (NJB) In Greek, the word for ''perfection'' is τελειότητα ''teleiotes'', which is different from the English use, meaning:  being perfect ''for the purpose for which it was intended.''
    
::::I think this means for a man's soul as an accountable moral agent, who is delivered from the wages of sin so long as his faith remains.  But a man's soul as an agent of spiritual health may require remedial or preventive sacraments which symbolize the sacrifice of a contrite heart or a sacrifice of worldly goods to maintain a heart in a spirit of grateful generosity. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Sunday, 08:38, 12 July 2020 (EDT)
 
::::I think this means for a man's soul as an accountable moral agent, who is delivered from the wages of sin so long as his faith remains.  But a man's soul as an agent of spiritual health may require remedial or preventive sacraments which symbolize the sacrifice of a contrite heart or a sacrifice of worldly goods to maintain a heart in a spirit of grateful generosity. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Sunday, 08:38, 12 July 2020 (EDT)
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