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====For NishantXavier====
Hebrews 7:27 "Unlike the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for all when he offered himself." This is in contrast to the high priests of the Old Covenant who needed to perform offerings repeatedly to cover sins, which is what the Catholic Church does. Your attempts at mental gymnastics about an "ongoing sacrifice" make no logical sense. It's flawed ad hoc reasoning designed to rescue unbiblical Catholic doctrine. Also, Galatians 1:8 says "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse!" No, do NOT just blindly obey church authority, fact check spiritual leaders like the Bereans did in Acts 17:11: "Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true."
Hebrews 7:27 "Unlike the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for all when he offered himself." This is in contrast to the high priests of the Old Covenant who needed to perform offerings repeatedly to cover sins, which is what the Catholic Church does. Your attempts at mental gymnastics about an "ongoing sacrifice" make no logical sense. It's flawed ad hoc reasoning designed to rescue unbiblical Catholic doctrine. Also, Galatians 1:8 says "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse!" No, do NOT just blindly obey church authority, fact check spiritual leaders like the Bereans did in Acts 17:11: "Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true."
====For LiberalTears====
Dataclarifier and other Catholics have in the past made the usual Catholic boast that they've been "practicing the same faith for 2000 years" and "what you practice has only been around for 500 years" and calling objections to their positions "the gates of Hell." Dataclarifier also called Rob "crazy" and said that his mom also thinks Rob is "crazy," so there is definitely vitriol on both sides. Understand that Rob comes from a Catholic family and he had a bad falling out when he left the Catholic Church. Regardless of what you feel, you're better off letting things go. You can't change it, and you'll only make things worse. Conservative have made it clear that they want both sides to stop the back-and-forth about this matter, and that means you too. If you won't, I WILL block you again. It's the real reason I blocked you before. Conservative have warned everybody about this (yes, RobSmith too). In fact, my recent message to Conservative was in response to '''something that Rob started, not the Catholics (yes, I do notice when Rob is in the wrong sometimes).''' The Catholics, unfortunately, took Rob's bait and started the back-and-forth again. I only wanted for Conservative to respond, but you came in and accused me of "stifling debate" and that started another back-and-forth, even though it wasn't about stifling debate, but rather moving it to the appropriate pages.
Rob has seniority over me, so I can't block him or control what he does, but the Conservative guys are intervening and trying to keep him in check. Just let it go and leave Rob alone.
====For RobSmith====
You seem to have lots of pent-up anger about Catholics because of bad experiences that you had, but I suggest you abide by Conservative's wishes and keep things off the talk pages.
==Video Games==
==Video Games==
I am in '''strong''' disagreement with the tone of the [[video game]] article. I grew up on the NES, then to the Super Nintendo and onward. I remember the video game controversy of the 90s and how older adults who did not play and had limited knowledge of video games were complaining that they were "too violent." I later learned that the controversy resulted in Senate hearings headed by Joe Lieberman and Herb Kohl (both Democrats) who were making a strong argument for legislating video games and showed a very strong ignorance of the medium. For example, they used the game "Lethal Enforcers" by Konami as one of these "violent games." However, Lethal Enforcers is a light-gun rail shooter in which the player plays the role of a law enforcement officer shooting at armed criminals who taunt and shoot at the player. Meanwhile, innocent bystanders in fear of their lives say "don't shoot!" and "help me!" Sometimes, the criminals even take bystanders hostage. Overall, it creates a situation which real life law enforcement officers find themselves in: being caught in a shootout with criminals where innocent bystanders are around. In such a situation, police must stop the criminals while protecting the public. This kind of action is reflected in the game by its scoring system: players are rewarded for high accuracy and severely penalized for any innocent victims that are killed. A players rank is advanced at the end of each level based off of the players score, however players can be demoted for killing innocent victims. Far from promoting senseless violence, it promotes the use of control and restraint which many real life law enforcement must show in any situation in which they are required to use deadly force.
I am in '''strong''' disagreement with the tone of the [[video game]] article. I grew up on the NES, then to the Super Nintendo and onward. I remember the video game controversy of the 90s and how older adults who did not play and had limited knowledge of video games were complaining that they were "too violent." I later learned that the controversy resulted in Senate hearings headed by Joe Lieberman and Herb Kohl (both Democrats) who were making a strong argument for legislating video games and showed a very strong ignorance of the medium. For example, they used the game "Lethal Enforcers" by Konami as one of these "violent games." However, Lethal Enforcers is a light-gun rail shooter in which the player plays the role of a law enforcement officer shooting at armed criminals who taunt and shoot at the player. Meanwhile, innocent bystanders in fear of their lives say "don't shoot!" and "help me!" Sometimes, the criminals even take bystanders hostage. Overall, it creates a situation which real life law enforcement officers find themselves in: being caught in a shootout with criminals where innocent bystanders are around. In such a situation, police must stop the criminals while protecting the public. This kind of action is reflected in the game by its scoring system: players are rewarded for high accuracy and severely penalized for any innocent victims that are killed. A players rank is advanced at the end of each level based off of the players score, however players can be demoted for killing innocent victims. Far from promoting senseless violence, it promotes the use of control and restraint which many real life law enforcement must show in any situation in which they are required to use deadly force.