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:::And technically, it's not even mine, it's Ion Mihai Pacepa's claim (and given that he was a former DIE agent, and specifically indicated that he had been previously involved in said disinformation campaigns by the KGB, it's pretty obvious he's not a Deep Stater. Heck, at the time those things happened, he was still firmly loyal to the Communists, didn't defect until the 1980s). [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 22:39, 8 October 2020 (EDT)
 
:::And technically, it's not even mine, it's Ion Mihai Pacepa's claim (and given that he was a former DIE agent, and specifically indicated that he had been previously involved in said disinformation campaigns by the KGB, it's pretty obvious he's not a Deep Stater. Heck, at the time those things happened, he was still firmly loyal to the Communists, didn't defect until the 1980s). [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 22:39, 8 October 2020 (EDT)
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::::All this was investigated back then. The only lessened learned was the danger of the CIA taking a liberal leftwing commie nutcase into its ranks - a lesson forgotten when Obama became C-I-C. Do you really suppose the Soviets  thought they would have fared better under LBJ in Vietnam than under Kennedy? It wasn't until Nixon that ''detente'' was achieved and nuclear weapons limitation talks began. Soviets never wanted '''any''' kind of an arms race, conventional or nuclear.
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::::All this was investigated back then. The only lesson learned was the danger of the CIA taking a liberal leftwing commie nutcase into its ranks - Oswald - a lesson forgotten when Obama became C-I-C. Do you really suppose the Soviets  thought they would have fared better under LBJ in Vietnam than under Kennedy? It wasn't until Nixon that ''detente'' was achieved and nuclear weapons limitation talks began. Soviets never wanted '''any''' kind of an arms race, conventional or nuclear.
 
::::Then you also have to look at the Soviet domestic situation 0 the assassination occurred at about the same time as the removal of Khrushchev and the Sino-Soviet split - both having occurred due to what was regarded as Khrushchev's reckless foreign policy over the [[[Cuban Missile Crisis]].  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 22:48, 8 October 2020 (EDT)
 
::::Then you also have to look at the Soviet domestic situation 0 the assassination occurred at about the same time as the removal of Khrushchev and the Sino-Soviet split - both having occurred due to what was regarded as Khrushchev's reckless foreign policy over the [[[Cuban Missile Crisis]].  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 22:48, 8 October 2020 (EDT)
  
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