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::::Every dispute doesn't' have to be resolved. The idea now is simply to keep trolls off Andy's talk page and give editors a place to air grievances, which may or may not be legit. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]} 21:17, 1 February 2021 (EST)

::::Every dispute doesn't' have to be resolved. The idea now is simply to keep trolls off Andy's talk page and give editors a place to air grievances, which may or may not be legit. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]} 21:17, 1 February 2021 (EST)

:::::You're starting again with the false accusations, Rob.  You should've left well enough alone when Karajou removed this section and took that for the signal he was sending you, but now you're making like the proverbial "dog with a bone" that just won't drop it and let it go (especially now with your attempts to appeal to other editors here).  [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 21:27, 1 February 2021 (EST)

::::::You're only continuing to prove my point (and Karajou's point) every time you do this, Rob.  Ever since you decided to go rogue and bend a knee to the Biden regime with that post on my talk page falsely accusing me of "trolling" while leaving a link to that DHS note (which appears to have been the moment that you snapped), you've been getting progressively worse.  The only reason you put that warning template up to hide what I have to say is because you don't like what I have to say, and only liberals resort to that kind of censorship for similar such reasons - and every time you do this, you only further prove that point.  [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 21:46, 1 February 2021 (EST)

|content=:::::You're starting again with the false accusations, Rob.  You should've left well enough alone when Karajou removed this section and took that for the signal he was sending you, but now you're making like the proverbial "dog with a bone" that just won't drop it and let it go (especially now with your attempts to appeal to other editors here).  [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 21:27, 1 February 2021 (EST)

::::::You're only continuing to prove my point (and Karajou's point) every time you do this, Rob.  Ever since you decided to go rogue and bend a knee to the Biden regime with that post on my talk page falsely accusing me of "trolling" while leaving a link to that DHS note (which appears to have been the moment that you snapped), you've been getting progressively worse.  The only reason you put that warning template up to hide what I have to say is because you don't like what I have to say, and only liberals resort to that kind of censorship for similar such reasons - and every time you do this, you only further prove that point.  [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 21:46, 1 February 2021 (EST)}}

:::The Kangaroo Court will reduce the incidence of divisive flame wars, giving aggrieved parties a place to vent their <s>spleens</s> differences. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]} 00:08, 2 February 2021 (EST)

:::The Kangaroo Court will reduce the incidence of divisive flame wars, giving aggrieved parties a place to vent their <s>spleens</s> differences. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]} 00:08, 2 February 2021 (EST)

No one is going to post on a forum with a title like the one proposed. This page is as good a place as any for the "Why is RobSmith so mean?" discussion. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 00:28, 2 February 2021 (EST)

No one is going to post on a forum with a title like the one proposed. This page is as good a place as any for the "Why is RobSmith so mean?" discussion. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 00:28, 2 February 2021 (EST)

:A Kangaroo court will give all editors a chance to present their case with evidence before objective viewers. The viewers can then reject it without merit, or possibly render a decision one or both parties. The decision of course is without any enforcement mechanism, and blocking editors can cite as a second offense if the user doesn't mend their ways.  Andy of course would be the Final Court of Appeal, but only after the Kangaroo Court rendered a decision.

:A Kangaroo court will give all editors a chance to present their case with evidence before objective viewers. The viewers can then reject it without merit, or possibly render a decision one or both parties. The decision of course is without any enforcement mechanism, and blocking editors can cite as a second offense if the user doesn't mend their ways.  Andy of course would be the Final Court of Appeal, but only after the Kangaroo Court rendered a decision.

:Sysops would be the only group of editors with direct access to making a complaint against a Sysop on Andy's talk page, by-passing the Kangaroo Court, and eliminating the frivolous cases we've seen in the past. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]} 01:04, 2 February 2021 (EST)  

:Sysops would be the only group of editors with direct access to making a complaint against a Sysop on Andy's talk page, by-passing the Kangaroo Court, and eliminating the frivolous cases we've seen in the past. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]} 01:04, 2 February 2021 (EST)  

:I'd like to let this drop and move on, but RobS is clearly unwilling to and he's letting it affect both his judgement and his ability to do his job.  [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 00:45, 2 February 2021 (EST)

|content=:I'd like to let this drop and move on, but RobS is clearly unwilling to and he's letting it affect both his judgement and his ability to do his job.  [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 00:45, 2 February 2021 (EST)}}

Nothing wrong with this "Kangaroo Court" idea. Except the name, and that name would be a deal-killer. I don't like to copy names from other projects. But maybe "Board of Arbitration" would fit better.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]^{[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]} 08:06, 2 February 2021 (EST)

Nothing wrong with this "Kangaroo Court" idea. Except the name, and that name would be a deal-killer. I don't like to copy names from other projects. But maybe "Board of Arbitration" would fit better.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]^{[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]} 08:06, 2 February 2021 (EST)

:Or "Consultative Assembly" or anything would do. There just ought to be a process where people know they will be heard, no matter how valid or ridiculous a complaint might be, rather than chaos, helplessness, and frustration some users now feel. I just want to get the ball rolling on some ideas to kick around. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]} 08:55, 2 February 2021 (EST)

:Or "Consultative Assembly" or anything would do. There just ought to be a process where people know they will be heard, no matter how valid or ridiculous a complaint might be, rather than chaos, helplessness, and frustration some users now feel. I just want to get the ball rolling on some ideas to kick around. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]} 08:55, 2 February 2021 (EST)