| | :A weaker (yet more truthful) statement that would be easier to defend wold be "the Nazi form of socialism was compatible with their notion of ethnic pride, and also their use of violent racist nationalism. It was also particularly vulnerable to demagoguery while under the economic strain. Nazi socialism was also compatible with both the atheist and Christian beliefs of the German and Italian peoples; although obviously *more* compatible with the atheists due to Marx's desire to push forward materialistic philosophy as the backdrop for his socioeconomic theories. One would think that the liberal and modern moires of socialism wouldn't sufficiently honor the traditions that Hitler tried to reawaken from the time of proto-Germany / proto-Italy (eg the Holy Roman Empire or Christendom ), but apparently identity politics has again made for some strange bedfellows, in the enemy-of-my-enemy sense." Okay that was horrible admittedly, but it at least addressed most of what I thought needed saying. Sorry for the long-winded discussion. {{unsigned|NoahEdelson}} | | :A weaker (yet more truthful) statement that would be easier to defend wold be "the Nazi form of socialism was compatible with their notion of ethnic pride, and also their use of violent racist nationalism. It was also particularly vulnerable to demagoguery while under the economic strain. Nazi socialism was also compatible with both the atheist and Christian beliefs of the German and Italian peoples; although obviously *more* compatible with the atheists due to Marx's desire to push forward materialistic philosophy as the backdrop for his socioeconomic theories. One would think that the liberal and modern moires of socialism wouldn't sufficiently honor the traditions that Hitler tried to reawaken from the time of proto-Germany / proto-Italy (eg the Holy Roman Empire or Christendom ), but apparently identity politics has again made for some strange bedfellows, in the enemy-of-my-enemy sense." Okay that was horrible admittedly, but it at least addressed most of what I thought needed saying. Sorry for the long-winded discussion. {{unsigned|NoahEdelson}} |
| − | ::Nazis first tossed out God, believed the rights of collective society took precedence over the rights of the individual with a big government to enforce it, and had no respect for human rights. That is what makes them socialists and kinsmen with anyone who calls themself socialist. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 04:30, 23 May 2021 (EDT) | + | ::Nazis first tossed out God, believed the rights of a collective society took precedence over the rights of the individual with a big government to enforce it, and had no respect for human rights. That is what makes them socialists and kinsmen with anyone who calls themself socialist. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 04:30, 23 May 2021 (EDT) |
| | Co[n]s! You're still at it. See this site, see that. Cons, I hate Fascism and I hate Communism. There may be the odd liberal that agrees with Communism but I have never met one and I bet I've played with, worked with, sung with, travelled with, met, drunk with, and generally interacted with more liberals than you've had cooked dinners. (And that's not counting the women.) I have, however, met the odd right wing wierdo that still considers Hitler the ant's pants. And believe me - they weren't liberals! [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 03:39, 3 March 2013 (EST) | | Co[n]s! You're still at it. See this site, see that. Cons, I hate Fascism and I hate Communism. There may be the odd liberal that agrees with Communism but I have never met one and I bet I've played with, worked with, sung with, travelled with, met, drunk with, and generally interacted with more liberals than you've had cooked dinners. (And that's not counting the women.) I have, however, met the odd right wing wierdo that still considers Hitler the ant's pants. And believe me - they weren't liberals! [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 03:39, 3 March 2013 (EST) |