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Talk:Debate:Listing the Earth's most pressing needs in urgent order of fixing (view source)
Revision as of 03:56, May 28, 2007
, 03:56, May 28, 2007→Noah's Ark: Fact or Fiction
:::* Aborigines and other native peoples ''do'' have stories of the Flood, etc. See [[Great Flood]] for some examples.
:::* Aborigines and other native peoples ''do'' have stories of the Flood, etc. See [[Great Flood]] for some examples.
::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 08:27, 17 May 2007 (EDT)
::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 08:27, 17 May 2007 (EDT)
== Animal Migration ==
Yes, that sentence was fairly poor and made little sense except to me. I do apologise for such poor argument techniques, my only (very poor) excuse is that I was absolutely wrecked at the time.
Yes, that sentence was fairly poor and made little sense except to me. I do apologise for such poor argument techniques, my only (very poor) excuse is that I was absolutely wrecked at the time.
:::"''...I assume that to overcome this problem you would say that they were pre-flood and indeed the fossils were dated to be over 20,000 years old''". I'm not saying that they were ''not'' predatory, just questioning whether or not we can say for sure that they ''were''. Neither am I saying that they ''are'' pre-flood, just wondering if we ''know'' that they weren't.
:::"''...I assume that to overcome this problem you would say that they were pre-flood and indeed the fossils were dated to be over 20,000 years old''". I'm not saying that they were ''not'' predatory, just questioning whether or not we can say for sure that they ''were''. Neither am I saying that they ''are'' pre-flood, just wondering if we ''know'' that they weren't.
::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 06:18, 23 May 2007 (EDT)
::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 06:18, 23 May 2007 (EDT)
Yeh I know, I know. What I meant was that there really isn't anywhere for this arguement to go because you know what I think and vice-versa and basically because you accept the bible as fact and I think its a load of fairytales, and you say you have scientific evidence for them and I say I have evidence against it and so on and so forth, it'll only devolve into glorified "I'm right" "No you aren't, I am" and so on. But whatever!!
But you do! Bacteria evolve into different types of bacteria, becoming resistant to antibiotics, adapting to different organs and so on. If you took two different strains of bacteria that had a common ancestor, say three years ago, and examined these two bacteria, they would be so different as a result of living in a different environment that they would have very little resemblance to each other. That is a change of genetic material, where did it come from? Mutations of their genes of course.
What assumptions do you base your timescale on then? When the agricultural revolution began before god created the world then there is a slight problem, and I still fail to see why you doubt such dating methods, because even if they are hundreds of thousands of years off, even millions of years, the earth is still a lot older then the bible says it is.
Well the animals have been dated to have lived since just after the last ice age. So over 10,000 years old easily although again you have a different dating method. What I would like to know is why there are no records of the ice age in the bible or anywhere else from around the period of time after Noahs Arc?
[[User:Bolly Ottihw|Bolly Ottihw]] 13:56, 28 May 2007