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::::::::::::::Deep States are nothing new; countries like China and Eygpt have had unbroken civil service bureaucracies for thousands of years, despite a zillion changes of regime in the interim. Heck, even the [[Cheka]] was made up of old-timers from the Czarist Okhrana who trained and mentored the younger Marxist revolutionaries in professional police tactics. IOWs, it just changed its name. There is no destroying a deep state once it takes root. You can only come to terms with it, and maybe try to influence or control it, depending on how much power you have. They have six ways from Sunday to make your life miserabble. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 05:01, October 28, 2021 (EDT)
::::::::::::::Deep States are nothing new; countries like China and Eygpt have had unbroken civil service bureaucracies for thousands of years, despite a zillion changes of regime in the interim. Heck, even the [[Cheka]] was made up of old-timers from the Czarist Okhrana who trained and mentored the younger Marxist revolutionaries in professional police tactics. IOWs, it just changed its name. There is no destroying a deep state once it takes root. You can only come to terms with it, and maybe try to influence or control it, depending on how much power you have. They have six ways from Sunday to make your life miserabble. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 05:01, October 28, 2021 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::Yes, there is destroying a deep state once it takes root. It means radical measures. Abolishing the most corrupt of the corrupted agencies is a starter.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 21:32, November 2, 2021 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::Yes, there is destroying a deep state once it takes root. It means radical measures. Abolishing the most corrupt of the corrupted agencies is a starter.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 21:32, November 2, 2021 (EDT)
::::::::::::::::Historically speaking, it is hard to think of an example where it has been rooted out completely. Yes, historically there have been agencies and whole generations of people ostracized, the SS & NKVD for example. But even Weimar bureaucrats survived in the civil service throughout the Nazi regime. Deep Staters like Reinhard Gehlen and Werner von Braun (representative of the technocracy and leadership) survived. Putin would be in that class, but it does not mean, as Pokeria ridiculously crusades for, that he's a dedicated communist. The Stassi is another example. It survived the East German state, was strengthened as a legitimate political party in the greater unified German state (Die Linke), and its tentacles now have an international reach into Antifa and the Black Lives Matter movement. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 03:45, November 3, 2021 (EDT)
Putin is not the enemy. The Deep State wants us to believe that he is, because he’s a constant foil for its agenda.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 11:34, October 25, 2021 (EDT)
Putin is not the enemy. The Deep State wants us to believe that he is, because he’s a constant foil for its agenda.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 11:34, October 25, 2021 (EDT)
:His 2007 speech at Munich deserves to be on the list of “writings critical of the Deep State.”--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 11:38, October 25, 2021 (EDT)
:His 2007 speech at Munich deserves to be on the list of “writings critical of the Deep State.”--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 11:38, October 25, 2021 (EDT)