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# An obtuse paragraph that is clearly designed to parody the alleged difficulty of baraminology by being difficult itself.  It is making an uncited opinion about baraminology in a way that is deliberately obtuse, and has been reverted three times by two different sysops.  Reinstatement of it without approval (which will not be forthcoming without a compelling case being made) will also be grounds for a block.
 
# An obtuse paragraph that is clearly designed to parody the alleged difficulty of baraminology by being difficult itself.  It is making an uncited opinion about baraminology in a way that is deliberately obtuse, and has been reverted three times by two different sysops.  Reinstatement of it without approval (which will not be forthcoming without a compelling case being made) will also be grounds for a block.
 
:[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 23:28, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
 
:[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 23:28, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
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:: # Not sure what your talking about.  For example, in Apache myth there is no concept or word for "Noah's arc", therefore the notion of baraminology is not even defined in their logos.  This is what is known in logic as "proof by construction," and follows directly with even a rudimentary understanding of language.  For example, if you said "creationists believe in purgatory," and I showed that, for example, the Yanomono tribes of South America are characterized as creationists and yet have no judeo-christian suppositions (in particular a word purgatory) in their mythos, then the consequence of that is that not necessarily all creationists believe in purgatory.  To publish something saying this is pointless.  It would be equivalent to to asking for a reference that states that "not all rocks are trees."  Such a statement is a proof by construction, simply using standard definitions. 
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:: # What do you mean by dogmatic?  It's possible your right, but based on your "techniques" then every sentence in the article needs to be cited.  If you could possible clarify the point?  It seems the point of knowledge is to resemble the truth by circumscribing the edges of the known (facts which are reproducible from the natural world) or hypothesized aspects of a problem.  If however the only point is to re-assert a certain seemingly inviolable premise, then first off, it is a dictionary and not an encyclopedia, and second there is no need for any language whatsoever, you could just suffice with, "I am correct, you are wrong; because we say so." 
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:: # No, it is rewording a colloquial criticism of baraminology in a way meant to be suggestive of the tendency of baraminologists to conveninetly ignore reality by superimposing a transparent and simplistic collection of terms which are bijective onto already existing terms, but affectively create an illusion of depth.  For example, if I rename cooking to lilkhast, and then proceed to define known cookware with words that end in "lilk", this has not effectively accomplished anything but perhaps a sort of re-invention of Babel. [[User:Cypam|Cypam]] 15:38, 30 May 2007 (EDT)
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