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::::::Yes. Neither Ukraine nor Taiwan are worth defending, and the only reason we're getting involved is because of the Deep State's agenda.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 12:25, February 22, 2022 (EST)
::::::Yes. Neither Ukraine nor Taiwan are worth defending, and the only reason we're getting involved is because of the Deep State's agenda.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 12:25, February 22, 2022 (EST)
:::::::You need to think these things through before you fall back on the Clintonian technique of demonization. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]</sup> 13:20, February 22, 2022 (EST)
:::::::You need to think these things through before you fall back on the Clintonian technique of demonization. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]</sup> 13:20, February 22, 2022 (EST)
:::::::::I did think those things through. Neither Ukraine nor Taiwan share a land or maritime border with us, so it is not a core national interest for us to protect either country. Based on this principle, the only scenarios we should be truly willing to go to war with either China or Russia over are: (1) a war between Japan and either China ''or'' Russia; or (2) a war between China ''and'' Russia. Should the former scenario occur, I would back Japan against whichever country it's fighting. And should the latter scenario occur, I would back Russia against China.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 22:52, February 22, 2022 (EST)
:::::::So let me see if I understand you now correctly: you learned the Clinton technique of demonization of [[neocon]]s in the Bush era, but you haven't fully reconciled Hillary's reemergence as a neocon, nor Obama's post-2008 conversion to neoconservativism yet. Is this an accurate summary? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]</sup> 13:26, February 22, 2022 (EST)
:::::::So let me see if I understand you now correctly: you learned the Clinton technique of demonization of [[neocon]]s in the Bush era, but you haven't fully reconciled Hillary's reemergence as a neocon, nor Obama's post-2008 conversion to neoconservativism yet. Is this an accurate summary? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]</sup> 13:26, February 22, 2022 (EST)
::::::::Nope. I see neoconservatism as a cabal that has basically ruled the US since the day George H.W. Bush was sworn in in 1989. And I see every president since and including the elder Bush as being a neocon or a neocon sympathizer. Even Trump has some sympathies.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 15:20, February 22, 2022 (EST)
::::::::Nope. I see neoconservatism as a cabal that has basically ruled the US since the day George H.W. Bush was sworn in in 1989. And I see every president since and including the elder Bush as being a neocon or a neocon sympathizer. Even Trump has some sympathies.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 15:20, February 22, 2022 (EST)