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Talk:Wars provoked by Deep State (view source)
Revision as of 05:12, March 5, 2022
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::::4) The conflicts caused by the Arab Spring were directly started by the Deep State, since it was the CIA who propped up the relevant Islamist uprisings.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 22:45, March 4, 2022 (EST)
::::4) The conflicts caused by the Arab Spring were directly started by the Deep State, since it was the CIA who propped up the relevant Islamist uprisings.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 22:45, March 4, 2022 (EST)
:::::Arab Spring, yes, definitely. The Syrian and Libyan wars were started by the Deep State. As to Saudi Arbia, we've discussed this at length. You still do not understand the difference between the Saudi government Saudi oligarchs, or understand the Islamic system of governance. Did bin Laden have some support from rich Saudi citizens for overthrowing the Saudi government? Yes. Did the Saudi government take action in the form of sanctions against the dissidents to protect itself? No. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]</sup> 00:09, March 5, 2022 (EST)
:::::Arab Spring, yes, definitely. The Syrian and Libyan wars were started by the Deep State. As to Saudi Arbia, we've discussed this at length. You still do not understand the difference between the Saudi government Saudi oligarchs, or understand the Islamic system of governance. Did bin Laden have some support from rich Saudi citizens for overthrowing the Saudi government? Yes. Did the Saudi government take action in the form of sanctions against the dissidents to protect itself? No. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]</sup> 00:09, March 5, 2022 (EST)
:::::So, because commercial, financial, and banking transactions are reported in the West between Saudi citizens and al Qaeda, that does not mean the Saudi government sponsored it, as you naively believe. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]</sup> 00:12, March 5, 2022 (EST)
== Provoking vs appeasement ==
== Provoking vs appeasement ==
Andy, I'm not sure if events such as Acheson's speech at the National Press Club or April Glaspie's comments to Saddam Hussein constitute acts of provocation. They sound like much more like acts of appeasement, in stark contrast to the blatant warmongering against Russia which ultimately resulted in the invasion of Ukraine.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 23:15, March 4, 2022 (EST)
Andy, I'm not sure if events such as Acheson's speech at the National Press Club or April Glaspie's comments to Saddam Hussein constitute acts of provocation. They sound like much more like acts of appeasement, in stark contrast to the blatant warmongering against Russia which ultimately resulted in the invasion of Ukraine.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 23:15, March 4, 2022 (EST)