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== Russia retreats from Kyiv ==

Well, what do you know? I thought this war would go until the midterms at least. But it looks it is already over. The Russians are not retreating, but they are "drastically" reducing their military presence near Kyiv, or so says Deputy Defense Minister Alexander Fomin. ''[https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/03/29/russia-to-drastically-wind-down-military-presence-near-kyiv-chernihiv-a77127 The Moscow Times]'' has the story. The ruble has already rebounded, so the market is expecting sanctions to be lifted. This leads to the question of, what about the eastern and southern fronts? If the Russians have given up on Kyiv, continued fighting elsewhere seems a bit pointless. All in all, a great victory for Zelenskyy, the valiant people of Ukraine, the NLAW, and the Javelin. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 22:16, March 29, 2022 (EDT)
:The troops are being transferred to the Donbas cauldron, where more than half of the half of all Ukrainian forces initially deployed there have already been destroyed.

:Kyiv was never an objective; it was a diversion to keep reinforcements out of the Donbas.

:The Russian objective has aways been demilitarization and denazification, not regime change. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 22:37, March 29, 2022 (EDT)

:Zelensky should end the fighting now, rather than allow what remains of Ukrainian forces in the Donbas to be slaughtered, which he knows will happen. The NATO cavalry is not going to ride int to save them. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 22:45, March 29, 2022 (EDT)

:And I love this word, "counterattack". Yah, occupying space the Russians vacated is called a "counterattack". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 23:14, March 29, 2022 (EDT)

'''Two side notes about the Russian military:''' (1) the Russian military is the most experienced military establishment in [[urban warfare]], having liberated 12,000 cities towns and villages during WWII. The US experienced some in the Battle of Hue in 1968, and not really again until Fallujah and some other engagements in Iraq. (2) The Russian military is least experienced in amphibious landings, but since 2012 in Syria, and now Ukraine in the Sea of Azov and possibly later, if an encirclement of Odessa should occur. IOWs, the Russians are determined to learn and master what the Japanese developed and used extensively in the South Pacific, and the U.S. copied in the South Pacific, in Sicily, Normandy, and Inchon. By contrast, despite all the brouhaha about China and Taiwan, China has no experience whatsoever and hopes for success in its first attempt. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 07:39, April 1, 2022 (EDT)

== WWII 2.0 for the Russians in Ukraine? Never count Putin or the Russians out. ==

In WWII, the Germans were badly beating the Russians at first. But Russia regained its footing and beat back the Germans.

The Russian army underperformed at first in Ukraine, but it looks like Russia is going to scale back its ambitions and conquer the Donbas region instead (which is filled with Russian separatists). If Russia succeeds, it will have successfully taken away the Crimea area before this war and taken the Donbas region in this war.

If there is oil and gas in the Donbas region, maybe Russia will have come out financially ahead due to this war. So maybe Vladimir Putin is a shrewd conquerer and not the totally crazy man the Western press is making him out to be.

The New York Times March 29, 2022 opinion piece [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/29/opinion/ukraine-war-putin.html What if Putin Didn’t Miscalculate?]:

:The conventional wisdom is that Vladimir Putin catastrophically miscalculated.

:He thought Russian-speaking Ukrainians would welcome his troops. They didn’t. He thought he’d swiftly depose Volodymyr Zelensky’s government. He hasn’t. He thought he’d divide NATO. He’s united it. He thought he had sanction-proofed his economy. He’s wrecked it. He thought the Chinese would help him out. They’re hedging their bets. He thought his modernized military would make mincemeat of Ukrainian forces. The Ukrainians are making mincemeat of his, at least on some fronts....

:"Combine that with Russia’s previous territorial seizures in Crimea (which has huge offshore energy fields) and the eastern provinces of Luhansk and Donetsk (which contain part of an enormous shale-gas field), as well as Putin’s bid to control most or all of Ukraine’s coastline, and the shape of Putin’s ambitions become clear. He’s less interested in reuniting the Russian-speaking world than he is in securing Russia’s energy dominance.

:“Under the guise of an invasion, Putin is executing an enormous heist,” said Canadian energy expert David Knight Legg. As for what’s left of a mostly landlocked Ukraine, it will likely become a welfare case for the West, which will help pick up the tab for resettling Ukraine’s refugees to new homes outside of Russian control. In time, a Viktor Orban-like figure could take Ukraine’s presidency, imitating the strongman-style of politics that Putin prefers in his neighbors.

:If this analysis is right, then Putin doesn’t seem like the miscalculating loser his critics make him out to be."

Joe Biden seems to lack a sense of urgency to help the Ukrainians in order to keep the USA out of a war with Russia. Or perhaps it is because Joe Biden has a lot on his plate or it is because he is elderly and slow. If I were the Ukrainians, I wouldn't put too much confidence in a bunch of virtue signaling liberals/leftists in the West who are not scambling to arm the Ukrainians fast enough so they can win against a much a bigger Russian army. In the meantime, it looks like Putin will conquer the Donbas region and cause a lot of damage in other areas of Ukraine.

Also, read the Wall Street Journal article: [https://www.wsj.com/articles/vladimir-putin-russia-ukraine-war-nato-11648404299 Vladimir Putin Will Win in Ukraine Because He Has No Other Choice. Given how he has treated his political opponents, he knows he can expect no mercy.]

Professor John Mearsheimer said Putin was too smart to try to swallow up Ukraine, but he will wreck Ukraine instead. Perhaps, Mearsheimer was initially wrong, but now Putin has become more pragmatic and scaled down his ambitions. See: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4&t=1531s Why is Ukraine the West's Fault? Featuring John Mearsheimer].

I said I wasn't going to follow the news much in 2022, but this war caught my attention and curiosity. But I think I see where this is going now. Maybe Russia will keep taking bites out of Ukraine until there is a stalemate. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:33, March 30, 2022 (EDT)

:Who ever said Russia was trying to "conquer Ukraine"? Oh, I know. The same people who said Putin is Hitler, Putin wants to recreate the Soviet Union, and Zelensky is a great leader. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 20:03, March 30, 2022 (EDT)
:''keep the USA out of a war with Russia''. Bzzzt. Wrong. We're already in to the tune of $14 billion to fund the Nazis over the next 3 years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 20:07, March 30, 2022 (EDT)
::Putin did try to install a puppet government in Ukraine, but he couldn't kill off the Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy because his forces couldn't conquer Kyiv (nor could his assassins kill off Zelenskyy).

::America is borrowing $14 billion from China and others because Ukrainian borders are important (As Joe Biden keeps the southern border open to illegal immigrants). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:08, March 30, 2022 (EDT)

:::Wow. And Hillary Clinton is going to be president, too, I suppose.
:::Leave the history writing to us historians, okay? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 22:33, March 30, 2022 (EDT)

:::You have this here, for example, exactly backwards: ''Putin is executing an enormous heist''. Should read: "NATO and the West is trying to execute a great heist." 22:36, March 30, 2022 (EDT)
::::[https://www.firstpost.com/world/ukraine-russia-war-president-volodymyr-zelensky-escapes-another-assassination-bid-10497351.html Ukraine-Russia War: President Volodymyr Zelensky escapes another assassination bid].
[[File:Indian volunteers in the Wehrmacht.PNG|right|350px|thumb|Training of Indian volunteers ("ragtops" or "towel heads" as they are disparagingly known in America) in the Wehrmacht to fight British [[colonialism]] in the North Africa campaign.]]
::::[[Decapitation (military and political strategy)]]: The Encyclopedia of War declares: "The strategy of disrupting or defeating an enemy by eliminating its military and political leadership, “decapitating” the army or society, has long been practiced in conflicts and advocated by strategists as diverse as Sun Tzu and Machiavelli. The principal benefit of decapitation is that much can be gained, immediately, from a limited operation. Removing leaders can bring victory in battle, decisively turn a campaign, or cause an entire country to fall. There are weaknesses inherent in this strategy, however; its success seems dependent on the specific context in which it is employed."
:::::'''Update:''' As to your "decapitation" psyop used so effectively against you, you need to see this 2-3 minute segment on the [https://youtu.be/rSzBbBQrREY?t=194 Military and Foreign Affairs Network] on Day 50. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 15:31, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

::::I helped decapitate the [[atheist movement]]. [[Monica Shores]] is a writer for the Huffington Post, Alternet, Make/shift, the Ms. Magazine blog, and TheRumpus. Her ''Ms. Magazine'' article titled ''Will “[[New Atheism]]” Make Room For Women?'' was one of the first articles criticizing the New Atheism movement for being [[sexism|sexist]].[http://msmagazine.com/blog/2010/11/01/will-new-atheism-make-room-for-women/] She also cited [[Conservapedia]] in her article and indicated: "The lack of lady presence is so visible that [[Conservapedia]] commented on it by noting that [[Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science website|Dawkins’ website]] overwhelmingly attracts male visitors."[http://msmagazine.com/blog/2010/11/01/will-new-atheism-make-room-for-women/] See also: [[Elevatorgate]] and [[Richard Dawkins and women]]. "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves. Be ye therefore wise as serpents and harmless as doves." - Jesus. (Matthew 10:16). Jesus never quoted Sun Tzu though. :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:51, March 31, 2022 (EDT)
:::::P.S. I have noticed that the lady leadership at a certain wiki is less assertive post-GossipGate scandal. :) See also: [[Atheism and leadership]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:57, March 31, 2022 (EDT)

::::::Propaganda. The problems is, you have no evidence for anything you've said, other than the CIA/MSM. `[[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 01:17, March 31, 2022 (EDT)
::::::The Russians have a saying, 'In war, the one who tells the truth wins.' They learned that from defeating Hitler. That's why they are so tight lipped. By contrast, your head is filled with nothing but MSM/Deep State/Western propaganda. You think what others want you to think. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 01:20, March 31, 2022 (EDT)
:Read [https://www.conservapedia.com/User:Conservative/Political_and_religious_news#The_case_for_not_being_a_partisan_and_being_more_objective THIS]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 02:32, March 31, 2022 (EDT)
::Oh, so on the question of U.S. taxpayer support for Nazis you are neutral. Interesting. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 05:15, March 31, 2022 (EDT)
:::Just a quick heads up. The Nazis were defeated in WWII. And the risk of German nationalism sparking a world war is pretty remote. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:06, March 31, 2022 (EDT)
::::Just a quick heads up: the Nazis have been committing genocide in the Donbas for the past 8 years, but because they are Russian victims and do not support gay marriage, the CIA, [[WEF]], and MSM have ignored and encouraged it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 16:46, March 31, 2022 (EDT)
[[File:Azov Tomorrow All of Europe.jpg|right|350px|thumb|"Reconquista: Today Ukraine Tomorrow Rus' and the Whole Europe" (original in English) the theme at the 2016 Kyiv party conference of the U.S.-backed Ukrainian Nazi organization.[https://linksunten.archive.indymedia.org/node/194620/index.html] ]]
:::::You still do not recognize the deeply ingrained antisemitism of Eastern Europe and Western Ukraine stemming from the Czarist [[pogrom]]s, which citizens of the former Austro-Hungarian Empire brought to Weimar Germany. Bottomline, your understanding of German Nationalism is formed by WWII and post-WWII American Hollywood propaganda, and not any historical facts.
:::::The seat of Ukrainian Nazism is the city of Lviv, formerly the Polish city of Lvov, and prior to the collapse of the Austro-Hungarian Empire the German city of Lemberg in Hitler's youth. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 19:10, March 31, 2022 (EDT)
:::::If you think the cities of Hamburg and Berlin were full of racist German nationalists and Nazis during the Third Reich, or that North German Lutherans were Nazis, your understanding of history is zero. 19:13, March 31, 2022 (EDT)
::::[https://www.conservapedia.com/File:EU_reinforcements.jpg This is what the war is about]. Since the US-backed regime change in 2014, Western European elites have turned Kyiv into a lawless playground, where prostitution and drugs flow at a price for European elites. Gay pride is used to attack the traditional Orthodox churches. And yes, Western oil interests are after the oil rich Donbas and Crimea, only the native Russian population has to be removed or exterminated first.
::::There are other aspects related to China, but you need to digest the cultural war started by the West and political upheavals and genocide which have occurred since the illegal Obama-backed [[Maidan coup]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 18:16, March 31, 2022 (EDT):
::::The Ukraine war is what the CIA traditionally calls "[[Blowback]]". [https://thegrayzone.com/2018/11/15/blowback-how-us-funded-fascists-in-ukraine-mentor-us-white-supremacists/] It is yet another example to be added to the 1954 Iranian Revolution, the 1963 assassination of President Diem of South Vietnam, or the rise of the Islamic State after the 2003 Iraq war - the after effects of U.S. meddling and regime change in a foreign country. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 18:41, March 31, 2022 (EDT)
::::Even the [[Cambodian genocide]] in the mid to late 1970s was blowback after the U.S. withdrawal from Southeast Asia. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 18:48, March 31, 2022 (EDT)
[[File:Nazi diversity.jpg|right|350px|thumb|[[Diversity]] and inclusion: [[Muslim]] members of the Waffen SS 13th division at prayer during their training at Neuhammer, Germany, in November 1943.]]
Azov Battalion founder Andriy Biletsky said<ref>It's easy to see where Biletsky got his ideological views from. He must've got ahold of a preserved tract of Himmler's ''Der Untermensch'' (linked below), censored and outlawed with severe consequences for its possession in Soviet times, which he and whoever he got it from held as some sort of sacred font of truth.</ref>
{{quotebox-float|"The Ukrainian nations's mission is to lead the white races of the world in a '''final crusade against [[Semite]]-led Untermenschen (subhumans)'''"[https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fighting-russia-takes-focus-off-azov-battalions-nazi-roots-x07lkjl7r]}}
echoing the words of [[Heinrich Himmler]]:
{{quotebox-float|"As long as there have been men on the earth, '''the struggle between man and the subhuman''' will be the historic rule; '''the Jewish-led struggle against the mankind''' [humanity],<ref>[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=dehumanization&go=Go dehumanization]: in both Biletsky & Himmler's context, the "Jewish led" subhumans refers to Russians, particularly Russian [[Marxist-Leninist]]s, although it can be applied to all of "Jewish led" humanity. The Judeo-Christian faith can also be considered the largest portion of "Jewish led" subhumans, as Hitler described Jesus as 'the bastard son of a Jewish whore and Roman centurion,' a perverse extrapolation of Matt. 1:18.</ref> as far back as we can look, is part of the natural course of life on our planet. One can be convinced with full certainty that this struggle for life and death is just as much a law of nature as is the struggle of an infection to corrupt a healthy body."[http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/holoprelude/deruntermensch.html]}}
The biggest myth about German nationalist Nazism is that it was exclusive to other nations, races, and ethnic groups. The facts are, it was not.

Many historical narratives claim that Hitler did not allow the creation of a separate Ukrainian state out of Galicia, or that Ukrainian Waffen SS divisions had German commanders because the Germans were racist and prejudiced against Slavs. In reality, the Germans feared Ukrainian military and political leadership might negotiate a separate peace with Russians because of their common language and culture. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 19:46, March 31, 2022 (EDT)

:Footnote to history: At the time of the siege of Berlin, it was the French SS Charlemagne Division defending Hitler's bunker, despite all the propaganda you've heard for years about France being "occupied" and awarded a seat on the UN Security Council.<ref>Probably the earliest cause of Cold War tensions and Stalin's mistrust of the UN and the West, leading directly to the Korean War; additionally, the fact that the USSR was excluded from the Marshall Plan and France, which fought against the Red Army in the Battle of Berlin, was a recipient.</ref> Additionally, while the battle scenes in ''Saving Private Ryan'' appear authentic, the facts are it was mostly Ukrainians guarding the Atlantic Wall,<ref>So it was Ukrainians, albeit in German uniform, who were killing Americans on the beaches of Normandy.</ref> as most all German troops were in the east fighting Bolshevism. 20:06, March 31, 2022 (EDT)

:More facts: While Germany lost 1/4 of its territory and 1/5 of its population to Red Army occupation, [[Hungary]] was punished more severely, being split in half of both its population and territory going to Soviet Western Ukraine and Galicia. After 1945, it was convenient for everyone to blame the German's for everything that happened, whereas in reality, WWII was troops from every nation of continental Europe fighting against Soviet Communism, including Romanians and Hungarians at Stalingrad. 20:25, March 31, 2022 (EDT)

===First and foremost===
Before anyone goes off half-cocked again, regurgitating more MSM/CIA nonsense and propaganda about Vladimir Putin and the Ukraine war, one thing needs to be understood: the final decision to launch a nuclear weapon does not reside in the hands of Vladimir Putin, or for that matter even in Moscow. It solely and exclusively is in the hands of the battlefield commander who is in possession of a nuke or nukes, if he feels threatened.

Now, if you do not like or approve of these facts, and insist the world ''should'' be run according to the ideological perceptions ''you'' gained from public school and Western media, perhaps ''you'' can persuade [[Antony Blinken]] to try to persuade Lavrov, Putin, and the Moscow [[establishment]] to revise ''their'' military doctrine to suit ''your'' liking, where a Commander-in-Chief in the nations capital has sole responsibility. And maybe you can persuade them to abandon a 70 year old doctrine that has served them well in the next thirty days or so. 00:49, April 1, 2022 (EDT)

:Illustration: Posted above is the reference to the Red Army losing one life for every 6 inches gained in the last 30 miles to Berlin; had the Russians had a nuclear bomb in the closing days of WWII, [[Marshall Zhukov]], who already had full power and authority to do whatever was necessary, could have made the Trumanesque decision to nuke Berlin without consulting Stalin, if his advisors told him Hitler was holed up in a bunker, out of touch with reality, and it would cost 300,000 lives to go dig him out.

:Now, the effects of nuclear fallout were unknown or unclear at that time; nevertheless stories like this: [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-troops-sickened-by-contaminated-chernobyl-soil-official/ar-AAVI0ws?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=32d458a08b5849e58eb2bcd1bc1f8335 Russian Troops Sickened by Contaminated Chernobyl Soil], while meant to portray the Russians as stupid, entirely miss the point. If true, the point is Russian soldiers and commanders are not afraid of the longterm effects of exposure to nuclear fallout - if the military objective is achieved. This should be seen as warning to the West, if true, and not the [[Russophobic]] propaganda it is trying to express.

:WP describes Mykola Melnyk this way: "a Soviet-Ukrainian pilot and liquidator hero renowned for his high-risk helicopter mission on the dangerously-radioactive Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant building immediately after the 1986 Chernobyl disaster. For this operation, he was awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union." These guys flew helicopters directly above the exposed, burning nuclear core to dump sand on it. Of course they all got cancer and died, but as one said, "Do you think a Frenchmen would have such guts?" [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 01:47, April 1, 2022 (EDT)

:Or this gem appearing today: "[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/western-spy-agencies-weaponize-intelligence-in-attempt-to-undermine-putin/ar-AAVJj0L?ocid=BingNewsSearch CNN: Western spy agencies weaponize intelligence in attempt to undermine Putin]
:Wow. 5 weeks into the war, that's something that fool Putin, the ex-KGB officer, never anticipated.
:Or this one from today: [https://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-justification-ukraine-war-asia-singapore-lee-hsien-loong-1693621 Newsweek: Vladimir Putin's Justification for Ukraine War Makes Asia Feel 'Very Insecure'].
:Who the H-E-Double hockeysticks is 'Asia'?
:I only pity the poor fools who take ''any'' of this rot serious. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 01:58, April 1, 2022 (EDT)

Why would anybody wanna mess with these Russians? [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OgY5Ld2VkPI] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 04:57, April 5, 2022 (EDT)

===America's collusion with Nazis===
Remember Lindsey Graham addressing the Azov Nazi's in December 2016, "2017 will be the year of offense"? This video was uploaded on January 7, 2017, the response. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdVkbCGEyT8] "At the forefront" is a mistranslation, should be "On the frontline". The refrain, "We have nowhere to retreat to," Vladimir Putin repeatedly used in several speeches late last year as NATO and Biden were planning the war. How anybody can say this war was unforeseen for most of the past decade is mindboggling. And it all started with that idiot Barack Obama, his "transformational change" and his [[Maidan coup]].

The Ukrainian movement of 120,000 troops into the Donbas in November 2021 may well have been bait at NATO's direction to get the Russians to attack in a "preventative war" under the UN sanctioned "Bush doctrine". Who knows? Time will tell. One things certain, [[Clausewitz]] dictum of a "mutual agreement to fight" has been borne out again.

What is worrisome however is, in the West the idea of nuclear war seems outdated because of the environmental damage. The Russians however, being about 10 years behind in technology, have to rely on, not only the threat, but the actual use. As the song says, "We have seen hell and we're not afraid of it." [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 07:48, April 5, 2022 (EDT)

"Not one steep back" from the song was the saying at [[Stalingrad]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 07:51, April 5, 2022 (EDT)

[https://www.bitchute.com/video/zqjIYN3GAWFm/ Ukrainian soldier with large swastika tattooed on his chest being moved on foot by retreating AFU troops.] Note: All AFU armored vehicles have either been destroyed or are out of gas. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 09:17, April 9, 2022 (EDT)

[https://youtu.be/jh9KHToQDUQ Just a regular apartment in Ukraine]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 14:34, April 9, 2022 (EDT)

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The Clinton Campaign and the DNC fined for not properly disclosing funding for the discredited Steele dossier. https://www.businessinsider.com/fec-fines-clinton-campaign-dnc-over-spending-trump-russia-dossier-2022-3 --[[User:TheNewRight|TheNewRight]] ([[User talk:TheNewRight|talk]]) 11:12, March 31, 2022 (EDT)
:Done. Sorry for the delay on this important news item, but WWIII kinda takes precedence. Thanks again. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 23:38, March 31, 2022 (EDT)
::Thank you!--[[User:TheNewRight|TheNewRight]] ([[User talk:TheNewRight|talk]]) 00:38, April 1, 2022 (EDT)

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'''Sarah Palin announces she is running for Congress.''' She is running to replace Congressman Don Young who died last month. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/sarah-palin-announces-run-for-alaska-house-seat/ar-AAVLRBi?ocid=uxbndlbing --[[User:TheNewRight|TheNewRight]] ([[User talk:TheNewRight|talk]]) 21:26, April 1, 2022 (EDT)
:Done! Thanks for the tip.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:36, April 1, 2022 (EDT)
::Thank you!--[[User:TheNewRight|TheNewRight]] ([[User talk:TheNewRight|talk]]) 22:45, April 1, 2022 (EDT)

== Will Smith ==

I think conservapedia main news should stop share positive news on [[Will Smith]] and his wife. who admitted that she is in open marriage with him. this is not what conservative and christian values that we know to slap anyone who disagree with, like what Will Smith did. --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 22:41, April 1, 2022 (EDT)
:A century ago, a husband smacking another man for insulting his wife was honored, not persecuted. Isn't this incident really about [[chivalry]], which [[liberal]]s are tearing down to the harm of society? I don't know about past details about Will Smith's marriage, but his defense of his wife seemed sincere to me and that seems to be the real issue.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 23:03, April 1, 2022 (EDT)

I think the incident was either fake because of low popularity of Oscars awards or because of psychological issues from Will Smith who his wife admitted she was in open relationship and date other men in front of her husband and audience

[https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jada-pinkett-smith-admits-affair-august-alsina-red-table-talk_n_5f08d0a5c5b63a72c341a9da Jada Pinkett Smith Admits Dating August Alsina During Will Smith Separation] --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 23:18, April 1, 2022 (EDT)

:A century ago, any wife who cheated on her husband wouldnt dare to show her face in public, and now liberals encourage open marriages and polyamory. --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 23:22, April 1, 2022 (EDT)
::[[Liberals]] oppose heterosexuality, and I think that is what their undermining [[chivalry]] and vilifying [[Will Smith]] is about. Polygamy has biblical and cultural roots, which is a different issue from the one of chivalry at stake in this debate.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 23:57, April 1, 2022 (EDT)
:::I don't know, I haven't really seen any liberals criticizing Smith, besides the elites at the Academy; it seems like most of them are siding with him. We know that they already hate normal comedy, so an genuinely immoral joke about a black woman's medical condition is something most liberals would already be cancelling Rock for, even without the slap. It may well have been staged, as some suggest. I mean, with everything going on, such as food shortages, a SCOTUS nominee who defends pedophiles, and Biden's abysmal handling of the ongoing war in Europe, they may have set this up as a distraction. If that's the case, then it clearly worked. [[User:Vince Did 7-14|Vince Did 7-14]] [[talk|Christ Is King!]] 14:28, April 2, 2022 (EDT)
::::Smith has been almost universally condemned by liberals and conservatives alike. Because most understand that Rock's joke wasn't made out of malice and that Smith could've handled it differently. Also, did I mention you can see him laughing at the joke at first if you review the footage?--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 15:01, April 2, 2022 (EDT)
:::::: Why do you think women embrace the burqa, and don't regard it as oppressive in a male dominated society? Cause they can sneak around and have affairs. 16:03, April 2, 2022 (EDT)

::::::: We dont want women to wear burqa, also we dont want women to become sluts --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 16:33, April 2, 2022 (EDT)

::::::::My point is, it's just Western propaganda that led you to believe the burqa was oppressive. Women writers from a hundred years ago envied Muslim women who wore the burqa and could sneak around unobserved, and their conduct was acceptable in Muslim societies. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 16:40, April 2, 2022 (EDT)

::::::::: I think burqa is very oppressive against women, but my issue here is different, I would be happy to talk about it, but in other place --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 16:50, April 2, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::::I gave up following Hollywood celebs, professional athletes, and MSM a long time ago (and when I did, I discovered I had my own life.) [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 10:21, April 4, 2022 (EDT)

Bible always condemned polygamy in Old and New testament. The relationship of Will Smith with his wife is disgusting, Conservapedia shouldnt share anything positive about them. This kind of relationships that liberals promote arnt different from homosexual relationships, bestiality and pedophilia --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 16:43, April 2, 2022 (EDT)
:Bingo. The Burqa tries to hide the shame of adultery in Muslim societies which some people approve of, where in Western societies there is no shame. 16:50, April 2, 2022 (EDT)

::Here, I want to know your opinion on what called open marriage and Will Smith and his wife relationship instead. Do you think Conservapedia should share positive news about them? --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 17:08, April 2, 2022 (EDT)

Hollywood was built on great movies about chivalry. ''[[Gone With the Wind]]'' summed up in one word is "chivalry". Liberals should be criticized for profiting from chivalry in their movies while then ostracizing a genuine example of it at the [[Oscar]]s. I don't see how alleged adultery has anything to do with this.

Chivalry created all that is good about [[Western Civilization]]. We have long defended chivalry here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 19:04, April 2, 2022 (EDT)
:Will Smith is like a unemployed teacher. He has no class! His anger-filled, F-bomb tirade at the Oscar ceremony was indicative of [[Hollywood values]].

:I recently decided to cease watching anymore contemporary Hollywood movies (I still like the classic Hollywood movies such as the movie ''It's a Wonderful Life''). Will Smith's disgraceful behavior at the Oscars ceremony helps show that my decision was the right choice. I now subscribe to a Christian/family-friendly entertainment service. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:20, April 3, 2022 (EDT)

Its not alleged, its confirmed by [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqTmfVQEGGU this video], his wife confirm her open relationship without shame. and its not about chivalry, Will Smith has absolutely psychological issues and his wife manipulate him. she can sleep with other men without shame, so its easy to ask him to slap Chris Rock. --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 00:39, April 3, 2022 (EDT)

::The movie ''It's a Wonderful Life'' includes chivalrous conduct by a husband in defense of his wife. Many great Hollywood classics do. [[Chivalry]] is essential to American culture and defending it is necessary to defeat the liberal social agenda.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 01:25, April 3, 2022 (EDT)
:Currently, on the [[Will Smith]] page, an editor seems to want to indulge in chivalry denial (not only in terms of denying the chivalrous nature of Smith's defence of his wife's virtue, but in terms of erasing the uniquely Christian and conservative nature of chivalry. [[User:ClaudeMcH|ClaudeMcH]] ([[User talk:ClaudeMcH|talk]]) 14:21, April 3, 2022 (EDT)

::Western value that I know is from Bible. First Conrinthians 6 15, 18: 15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! 16 Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.” 17 But whoever is united with the Lord is one with him in spirit. 18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body. --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 15:11, April 3, 2022 (EDT)

:::I added a description of the scene of [[chivalry]] from ''[[It's a Wonderful Life]]'' to our entry about it. [[Bible]] quotations are welcome but they do not seem to reject chivalry.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 20:53, April 3, 2022 (EDT)

== Is Zelensky trying to oust Orban in Hungary? ==

If the most recent claims of Orban's Foreign Minister are to be believed, [https://euobserver.com/tickers/154621 yes he is].

I also wouldn't be surprised if the ''neo''conservative government in Poland is doing the same. Morawiecki and Duda have really shown their true colors over the past several months.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 15:07, April 2, 2022 (EDT)

What's Zelensky gonna do next? Sponsor terrorist attacks on NATO countries he deems to be insufficiently loyal?--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 15:34, April 2, 2022 (EDT)
:Zellensky? oust Orban? Are you serious? A puppet who is not in control of his own government or country oust the leader of a foreign country? What kinda globalist psyop are you trying to run against us? 16:07, April 2, 2022 (EDT)
:You are taking what is local pre-election story in Hungary as if it has some major global significance. The foreign minister is merely pointing out that it is the same globalist forces that forged the opposition coalition against Orban that also empowered Zelensky, albeit he is speaking to the lowest common denominator in the Hungarian electorate. The latest poll shows an amalgamation of 6 opposition parties, each having conflicting views with each other, has 38% and Orban 41%. Soros and [[WEF]] operatives who created Zelensky are trying to forge an "anti-Orban" opposition, despite all the terminal contradictions within the opposition. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 16:44, April 2, 2022 (EDT)
::The foreign minister explicitly stated that the opposition was coordinating with operatives of the Ukrainian government. Are you saying Zelensky somehow bears no responsibility for that? Do you also believe he somehow bears no responsibility for his country's interference in our own domestic affairs since 2016?--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 17:20, April 2, 2022 (EDT)
:::Zelensky is a stooge; NATO and others are acting at will on Ukrainian territory without his consultation. His job is to read a script in front of green screen. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 15:10, April 3, 2022 (EDT)
:::Read Sundance today. [https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/04/03/sunday-talks-ukraine-president-zelenskyy-on-face-the-nation-with-margaret-brennan-to-outline-war-crimes-in-ukraine/] He even goes easy on the little twerp. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 22:10, April 3, 2022 (EDT)
Orban confirmed it tonight. Excellent observation, Geopolitician, in anticipating this.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 20:50, April 3, 2022 (EDT)
:Thank you, Andy. Orban needs to strike back hard. Remove Russian sanctions and impose Ukrainian sanctions instead. Leave both the EU and NATO. And demand that Poland cease and desist with its warmongering or there will be serious consequences for the future of the Visegrad group.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 14:39, April 4, 2022 (EDT)

== Is it time to stop being anti-China? ==

I've been stating for a while that it's time for us to stop being anti-Russia and anti-Iran. Both countries are only our enemies because the Deep State says so. Now, I'm starting to wonder the same about China, which is also trying to dismantle the Deep State's projects worldwide.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 15:38, April 2, 2022 (EDT)

"out enemies". Why do you use leftist rhetoric and propaganda techniques? Satan, for example is number one of "our enemies", yet few Westerners would agree wth that. 16:13, April 2, 2022 (EDT)
:You know full well what I meant. Stop going after things that aren't there. Also, please include your username in your signature next time.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 17:20, April 2, 2022 (EDT)

I understand why you dont consider Russia as enemy. but Iran no way. Like Marxist Soviet Union. Mullahs of Iran want to export their Khomeinist terrorist Islamic revolution to World. someone should stop them one day. --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 17:27, April 2, 2022 (EDT)

:These are monsters of the military industrial complex's making. That, and decades of diplomatic and strategic blundering. Even China fits into this mold. And the idiots who think China now can be put in its place without Russia's help are leading America to Third World status. The opportunity to make peace with Iran is long past, and the outcome now doesn't look good. And it is patently obvious to anyone with two eyes, the warmongers who want war and nuclear war destroyed Donald Trump, who broke in a positive vein nearly 3/4 of a century inaction to resolve the Korean conflict. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 15:19, April 3, 2022 (EDT)
:Do you think Vladimir Putin did not notice that? The Deep State establishment that was totally against the first president who could speak with the North Korean leader and come away with hope to resolve the conflict was vilified and destroyed? What would you conclude if you were Putin? The U.S. establishment, they guys who actually run things and make decisions ("the interagency consensus") doesn't want peace. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 15:27, April 3, 2022 (EDT)
::The Deep State doesn't want peace with any nation which dares to disrupt its plans. This is especially true concerning China, Iran, and Russia. That is why I almost reflexively oppose any efforts to "stand up to" or "contain" those countries. Because their end goal isn't being tough or containing a real threat. Their end goal is genocide. The Deep State wants every single Chinese, Persian, and Russian dead.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 19:36, April 3, 2022 (EDT)
:::The [[BRIC]]s nations are the new power center (add South Africa to that). The petroruble is replacing the petrodollar. NATO of course, won't go down without a fight. They have a zillion tricks up their sleeve. And it will only add to the anti-[[colonialism|colonial]] sentiment already out there. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 22:04, April 3, 2022 (EDT)
::::I don’t see either BRICS or the “petroruble” being viable in the long-term. Nonetheless, the Deep State doesn’t care about their viability. It opposes their very existence. I do very much fear it will end up causing a situation where the whole world declares war on the US. Could you imagine that?--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 14:39, April 4, 2022 (EDT)
:::::The US is becoming increasingly marginalized; all it has remaining is its big stick, NATO, which continues saddling the diminished American taxpayers with the cost of defending European socialism, which the Europeans in both money and manpower are unwilling to defend themselves. Half the planet, Russia, China, India more or less just pulled out of the SWIFT network (not entirely in the case of China; it will still use the SWIFT network to run up more trade imbalances with the US and shrink the 'middle class' more; India will cash in with more foreign investment from Russia and China).
:::::So this [[Great Reset]] that NATO is trying to implement by engineering the [[Ukraine war]] is supposed to ween us off of [[fossil fuels]]. Where does the electricity come from for all the electric cars? Hmmm, lemme see....Russian uranium? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 19:05, April 4, 2022 (EDT)

:::::And when the Ukrainian military finally goes down in defeat due to lack of dirty filthy diesel fuel (which it gets from Russia and Belarus), and farmers in the 'breadbasket of Europe' can't plant because tractors run on diesel (and Europe starves this fall in a situation resembling post-WWI which gave impetus to Hitler's rise), our brilliant strategic planners still won't see that the war on fossil fuels and Russia was a failure. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 19:35, April 4, 2022 (EDT)

::We're beginning to see the outlines of the globalist/NATO strategy: food is being used as a weapon. Shanghai went into lockdown recently, and [https://youtu.be/S3gF6-AZZzM grocery stores are closed.] Like nuclear war, food shortages affect everyone. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 19:16, April 10, 2022 (EDT)

== "In the News" Section of the Main Page ==

"As Russia readies to finish off Ukrainian military in the Donbas, U.S. prepares false flag chemical attack." --> There's no link to a story "in the news" to accompany that item. [[User:ClaudeMcH|ClaudeMcH]] ([[User talk:ClaudeMcH|talk]]) 01:12, April 3, 2022 (EDT)
:Gonzalo Lira is reporting from Kharkiv. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2hhxh9Z6E0] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 12:38, April 3, 2022 (EDT)
::Cheers, Rob. [[User:ClaudeMcH|ClaudeMcH]] ([[User talk:ClaudeMcH|talk]]) 14:18, April 3, 2022 (EDT)

== Elon Musk and Twitter ==

'''Setback for Cancel Culture''': Cancel Culture Critic [[Elon Musk]] becomes the largest Twitter shareholder https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/elon-musk-becomes-twitter-largest-170630796.html --[[User:TheNewRight|TheNewRight]] ([[User talk:TheNewRight|talk]]) 13:30, April 4, 2022 (EDT)
:Posted!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 15:16, April 4, 2022 (EDT)
::Thank you!--[[User:TheNewRight|TheNewRight]] ([[User talk:TheNewRight|talk]]) 16:30, April 4, 2022 (EDT)
:::Saudi mega-invester Al Waleed made a show of "rejecting" Musk's offer. But it seems that the Saudis do not actually own any significant amount of Twitter stock. The biggest investors are Vanguard (10.3%), Musk (9.2%), Black Rock (6.5%), and State Street (4.5%).[https://helplama.com/who-owns-most-of-the-twitter-stock/] Vanguard, Black Rock, and State Street are allied, interlocking, firms committed to leftwing investing. The board adopted a "poison pill" proposal. It seems that they are willing to pay a staggering amount of money to fend off Musk and maintain Twitter censorship. Are the mutual fund investors that these firms are supposedly acting on behalf of really on board with that? Musk can now sell his stock for a whole lot more than he paid for it, which is what I assume he will do. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 11:41, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

== Poland further damages its credibility ==
Many conservatives cite Hungary and Poland as being the only sane countries left in the EU. I strongly disagree with this position, and say that it's ''just'' Hungary who is sane. As I've stated before, Poland's rabid Russophobia makes it impossible for it to be a true bastion of sanity in Europe. Whenever anything anti-Russian comes up, Poland ''always'' flips from anti-establishment maverick to establishment shill. [https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/04/04/poland-upbraids-macron-over-putin-negotiations-you-would-negotiate-with-hitler/ These recent comments] by PM Morawiecki proves it. Absolutely ridiculous.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 17:39, April 4, 2022 (EDT)

I'll also say it again. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that Morawiecki was in on Zelensky's plot to oust Orban.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 17:49, April 4, 2022 (EDT)
:I really can't imagine why Poland would have any reason to be phobic of Russia. Do the two countries have any history that would make Poland feel that way? [[User:ClaudeMcH|ClaudeMcH]] ([[User talk:ClaudeMcH|talk]]) 18:30, April 4, 2022 (EDT)

::IMO, Geo is still giving Zelensky too much credit for being a brain and strategic thinker, which is a globalist talking point. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 19:42, April 4, 2022 (EDT)
::Zelensky is a guy who reads a script crafted by NATO and the WEF. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 19:44, April 4, 2022 (EDT)

:::They have long history of conflicts. Poles have hated Russia since times of Czars, when [[Catherine II]] invaded Poland, then to Soviet Union era, when [[Stalin]] invaded Poland and committed war crimes and genocides there --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 20:43, April 4, 2022 (EDT)

:::The funny thing, those two who invaded Poland were not actually Russians. [[Catherine II]] was German Prussian, she was influenced by secular enlightenment thoughts, and Stalin was communist from Georgia --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 21:00, April 4, 2022 (EDT)

::::Did you ever see that scene in ''Europa, Europa'' (based on a true story), where a boat full of refugees is crossing a river at night meets another boat full of refugees coming from the other side. The boat going East shouts, "The Germans have invaded from the West!" The other boat shouts back, "The Russians have invaded from the East!" So all the Jews escaping the Russians jump out and swim to the boat escaping the Germans, and all the anti-communists escaping the Germans jump out and swim to the boat escaping the Russians. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 21:06, April 4, 2022 (EDT)

Now Morawiecki wants to emulate Fidel Castro.[https://www.newsweek.com/natos-poland-open-hosting-us-nuclear-weapons-1694540]--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 21:57, April 4, 2022 (EDT)
:Poland is on the take from NATO. It's the perks that come around a large military base, shops, theatres, restaurants, off-base housing, prostitution, free defense training, and freeing up most of your own military budget to use on other wasteful government spending. Its only the American taxpayers who get screwed. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 03:52, April 5, 2022 (EDT)
::To be fair, Poland hasn’t been delinquent on its military spending commitments. Nonetheless, its commitment to following the 2% rule does not give it an excuse to behave like this. If we get a populist in the White House in 2024, that President should be much tougher on Poland than Trump was.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 11:07, April 5, 2022 (EDT)
:::Yah, that was a concession the Polish government had to make to win DoD defense spending away from Germany, kinda like the bidding wars localities get into with tax breaks to get a Super WalMart, Intel, or Amazon plant located in their community. The benefits outweigh the costs. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 20:42, April 5, 2022 (EDT)
::::Of course. And yet so many conservatives somehow fail to see past that façade. They assume that just because Poland's government fulfills its NATO obligations and is socially conservative, it is somehow one one of the good guys and is right up there with Hungary as an example to be followed. The hard truth is, Poland's government isn't one of the best governments in the EU. In fact, it's one of the worst.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 22:04, April 5, 2022 (EDT)
:::::Poland has been exacerbating tensions in the Ukraine for some time now. I've across snippets of information in recent weeks, and the area needs more attention. This reference is very interesting:
::::::''"In 2014, when I was at NATO, I was responsible for the fight against the proliferation of small arms, and we were trying to detect Russian arms deliveries to the rebels, to see if Moscow was involved. The information we received then came almost entirely from Polish intelligence services and did not “fit” with the information coming from the [[OSCE]]—despite rather crude allegations, there were no deliveries of weapons and military equipment from Russia."'' [https://www.thepostil.com/the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine/] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 09:27, April 9, 2022 (EDT)

Poland’s deputy PM is now publicly attacking Orban. He’s also implicitly defending Ukrainian interference in Hungary’s elections, and ''ex''plicitly saying that Polish-Hungarian cooperation cannot continue unless Orban changes his position on the war.[https://www.euronews.com/2022/04/08/ukraine-war-poland-s-kaczynski-surprises-by-slamming-hungarian-ally-orban-on-ukraine]--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 15:57, April 9, 2022 (EDT)

Poland is also picking a fight with France because Macron is “too diplomatic.”[https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/nobody-negotiated-with-hitler-polish-pm-says-berating-frances-macron-over-putin-2022-04-04/]--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 16:26, April 9, 2022 (EDT)

Poland and the Czech Republic are now boycotting V4 meetings over Orban's position on Ukraine.[https://www.euronews.com/2022/03/29/visegrad-defence-ministers-meeting-cancelled-over-hungary-s-stance-on-russia] If these tensions continue, it could result in the organization splitting in two, with Poland and the Czech Republic on one side and Hungary and Slovakia on the other.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 22:15, April 10, 2022 (EDT)

== The Deep State, Genocide, and COVID ==
Upon further reflection, with the knowledge that the Deep State truly wants to genocide the peoples of China, Iran, and Russia, I take back what I said a few weeks ago about me being (finally) onboard with the "China did it" theory concerning COVID-19. The rationale I used at that time is that the CCP is too xenophobic to allow American scientists to be in charge of what was going on at the Wuhan lab. However, it turns out that the Deep State is far more xenophobic towards the CCP than the other way around. Both want world domination, but only one of them wants to genocide the other. Given their respective mentalities, it would make far more sense to conclude that the Chinese scientist responsible for the "leak" was loyal to Washington rather than Beijing, and that the order to release the virus came from an American official, not a Chinese official.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 13:36, April 5, 2022 (EDT)
:That being said, it is obvious from the "Ukrainian labs" revelation that COVID wasn't the only virus the Deep State intended to inflict on its enemies, and that it almost certainly wasn't the most dangeous. Once again, the Deep State is playing an extremely dangerous game, and this game could result in the whole rest of the world declaring on the US if it isn't careful.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 13:40, April 5, 2022 (EDT)
::I think you went off the rails this time. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 16:08, April 5, 2022 (EDT)
:::Jesus Christ, if you're too crazy for ROB, you might wannna get help. Hugs and kisses... [[User:ClaudeMcH|ClaudeMcH]] ([[User talk:ClaudeMcH|talk]]) 17:37, April 5, 2022 (EDT)
::::This is the problem genuine antifascists had in the late 1930s and first half of the 1940s. If someone said, "Hitler has a policy of genocide", the common and natural response was, "that sounds like a whacked out conspiracy theory" or "propaganda". Not until after the action was completed and the Nuremberg Tribunal, was it accepted. So it takes a little more clarity now in our discussions. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 17:55, April 5, 2022 (EDT)
::::For example, one can argue that NATO and US are using Zelensky ''and'' the Russians to wipe out paramilitarized Ukrainian Nazis by fueling the conflict and instructing Zelensky not to end the slaughter. What happens after that, when Ukraine is denazified and Russia weakened by the conflict, is anybody's guess. But to carry through on Geopoliticians theory of Deep State genocide only confuses a hazy situation even further. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 20:26, April 5, 2022 (EDT)
:::::Why would the Deep State treat the Azov Battalion as an enemy?--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 22:04, April 5, 2022 (EDT)
::::::Cuz they're Nazis.
::::::Now, let's back up a little bit and analyze: in 2014, you had a Russian stooge regime in power in Kyiv; Russians and their proxies have not been able to denazify Ukraine since 1941. Let's assume Deep Staters in 2014 wanted to take out ''both'' Ukie Nazis ''and'' the Russian military at low cost in NATO or American lives; let's further assume they wanted an updated real life test of NATO weapons, training, and tactics vs Russian weapons, weapons, training, and tactics. By empowering the Nazis (which they did) and provoking a war with Russia (which they did), they can sit back and watch both destroy each other and themselves, or at least significantly weaken Russian power.
::::::It's not like this is unprecedented; the US built up [[ISIS]] only to destroy it later. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 23:17, April 5, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::Good point. Of course we still have yet to go to war with the Azov Battalion, which in turn has yet to reach ISIS' level of power.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 22:01, April 6, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::Ukie Nazis are far more powerful than ISIS. They are in possession, or at least hold significant positions of power of a UN member state, receive direct NATO material support, training, and realtime intelligence. They are the ones using the latest technology in battlefield conditions. Ukie Nazis have been dispersed throughout the Kyiv military and security services. Ukie Nazis got Zelensky to shut down opposition parties and jail members of parliament, and Ukie Nazis are likely their jailers and interrogators.
::::::::ISIS did get direct weapons support from the US, from Obama, [[John Brennan]], and David Petraeus; they did not have NATO backing in Syria and Iraq. In Libya, 16 NATO countries assisted the groups that became ISIS later.
::::::::By contrast, neutral Sweden and Finland now want to get in bed with NATO fascists. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 23:01, April 6, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::::But right now, the Ukrainian neo-Nazis are much less organized than ISIS was. The former is currently fragmented into various groups, and the Azov Battalion itself has no more than 1,500 members. In stark contrast, the latter had as many as 100,000 members at its peak. Is it possible that the Ukrainian neo-Nazis could form an ISIS like entity in the future? Absolutely, especially if (1) Zelensky's government falls; and (2) Russia makes the same mistakes we made in Iraq when it came to disarming the enemy's military, mistakes which by the way [https://ria.ru/20220403/ukraina-1781469605.html are being advocated] by major Russia news sites like RIA Novosti.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 13:54, April 7, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::::Let's delve into this more specifically: In 2014, [[Victoria Nuland]] awarded the position of Defense Minister in the new cabinet to the Nazis. Since then, Nazis have been dispersed to high level positions throughout the military and security services. Nazis have recieved direct NATO training and weapons (a group is reported to be here in the United States right now receiving training in the use of NATO weapons). The figure you cite of 1,500 is Western propaganda, being that NATO and the West cannot hide the fact that there are Nazis, so they made a concession of 1,500. In fact, at the start of the Battle of Mariupol there were 15,000; a week ago 7,000 were reported with half being either KIA or escaped; today 3,000 to 3.500 are reported to be held up in Azovstal.
::::::::::The Speaker of the Ukrainian Parliament, Andriy Parubiy, is a Nazi. In Odessa, Serhiy Sternenko, a Nazi was offered by Zelensky to be head of Ukrainian security services in Odessa last year, but the nomination was withdrawn after Sternenko was charged with murder.
::::::::::If the Zelensky government were to fall, as you suggest, it would the Nazis who overthrow it, which is a real possibility.
::::::::::One of these days we'll get into a discussion of ''The ODESSA File'' and Odessa ratlines. Odessa has always been a hotbed of Nazi sentiment. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 09:58, April 9, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::::::RobS, when you say 15,000 neo-Nazis in Mariupol and 3,000 to 3,500 Nazis in Azovstal, are you referring to neo-Nazis in general, or just members of the Azov Battalion?--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 10:34, April 9, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::::::There are several groups that fall collectively under the name "Nazi" (Azov, Right Sector, [[Svoboda]], etc.) Some are paramilitary, some are political parties, some are political party spinoffs of paramilitary organizations. The all volunteer Azov Battalion, for example, requires showing your Nazi bona fidas to join. Lately you can read in Western propaganda outlets nonsense like, "they're not really Nazis, they're just cultural anti-Semites".
::::::::::::Since about 2007, when the "Socialist National" party changed its name to Svoboda (Freedom) party, Nazi leaders got the word from Westerners to tone it down a bit to get Western support, and it paid off in the 2014 [[Maidan coup]].
::::::::::::In Mariupol, about 3,000 Nazi fighters are held up in the Azovstal steel plant in an industrial section. The plant, the largest steel plant in Europe, was built in Soviet times to withstand World War III, built with an underground complex of reinforced bunkers. They evidently stockpiled lots of food and water over the years. The Russians have more or less secured all the surrounding residential neighborhoods. Barring a surrender, it will probably take a thermobaric bunker buster to end the seige, once civilians are cleared of the area.
::::::::::::In the meantime, a developing story has it that there are French and NATO commanders in Azovstal. Negotiations with Moscow are ungoing. Whether the NATO personnel are combatants, or whether they are hostages is unclear, or whether there are civilian foreign hostages. The NATO countries are insisting they want to bring in thier own military to evacuate the foreign personnel, which implies they are NATO combatants. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 11:04, April 9, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::::::::But they are not organized into one entity, under one Fuhrer, like ISIS was. And that makes a big difference.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 11:10, April 11, 2022 (EDT)

::::::::::::The recent headlines about the head of French military intelligence being fired because he failed to predict the Russian incursion is fake news; he was fired after the first failed attempt to get French personnel out of Azovstal. Perhaps Macon said, "What in the hell were they doing there in the first place?" assuming Macron does not have total support for the Nazis and was uninformed of French direct combat involvement. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 11:26, April 9, 2022 (EDT)

:'''Update:''' So, let's reexamine the theory that NATO used the Russians to destroy the Nazis. Mind you now, this excerpt of a a Facebook posting [https://www.facebook.com/36obrmp/] comes from Ukrainian Marines, not the Azov Nazis. The marines were holed up with the Nazis in Azovstal. 1,000 marines surrendered last night, but 2,000 Nazis are still holed up (reports say the Russians will pump water down the airshafts to flood the remaining Nazis out or drowned them in coming days).
:Here is the Facebook posting. I've made some edits to it, but will continue researching with others to discover its content. Obviously, not all these marines died, so we don't have an Alamo story here. Survivors eventually can help translate, as well as native Ukie speakers:
{{quotebox-float|"...'''We talked to the commander in chief''' [Zelensky] who promised to unblock. We talked with a Garantee who guaranteed us either a political or military solution of the situation. For more than a month, the Marines fought without refilling ammunition, without food, without water, almost a lacquer from the puddle and died in packs. The mountain of wounded makes up almost half of the crew. Those who have unbroken limbs and can walk, return in order. Infantry all died... Gradually we are coming to an end. Wise generals advise taking ammunition from your enemy. Probably not extinct these Sava parquettes [?], '''so many people will die for them in vain.''' There were chances. '''There were opportunities, but due to the silliness, they were not implemented. No one wants to communicate with us anymore because we are written [off].''' ..."}}
:This obviously is very demoralizing to the Ukrainian people and fresh recruits, to hear how their government and commanders lied to them and let down troops in the field offering to sacrifice their lives "due to the silliness". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 23:30, April 13, 2022 (EDT)

:Note: "Sava parquettes" I take to mean "safety parachutes", meaning generals and other high officials have "safety parachutes" to escape the impending defeat. Not entirely sure on that. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 23:39, April 13, 2022 (EDT)
::So what do we glean from this? Either (a) Azovstal and the Nazis were written off, or (b) contrary to propaganda, the Ukrainian military has been severally weakened so as to be unable to fulfil its promises and assurances to its own troops. Coming next is the Donbas cauldron where, not 2 or 3 thousands Nazis are holed up, out of gas, out ammunition, and out of food, but 60,000. If they die, surrender or are captured, it all could be avoided now if Zelensky accedes to Russian peace demands. You can pay me now or you can pay me later, but NATO is leading Ukraine down the path of destruction. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 23:52, April 13, 2022 (EDT)

:::::::It's pretty obvious Russia was baited into war and Ukraine was used as cannon fodder. [https://youtu.be/6m9PoKnCNR0] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 01:49, April 7, 2022 (EDT)

== The left embraces pedophiles ==

Plato and Socrates praised it. Zeus played with his catamites. But for Americans, pedophilia was the ultimate taboo. How times have changed. The media is pretty steamed with senators Cruz and Hawkins for questioning Judge Jackson about the light sentences she has meted out to pedophiles. It amounts to an anti-anti-pedophilia position, modeled on the left's anti-anti-communism during the Cold War.

What kind of pervert thinks that public schools should teach sexuality in K-3? My reaction to the Florida parental rights law was, "How about K-12?" DeSantis has earned the respect of parents with this law. See "[https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2022/04/opposing-sexual-abuse-children-new-hate-daniel-greenfield/ Opposing Sexual Abuse of Children is the New Hate]." [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 10:41, April 6, 2022 (EDT)
:Indeed, I wish the media would say more about a prominent former Democrat Party donor who [https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/300551-report-trump-walked-into-teen-beauty-pageant-changing/ engaged in pedophiliac voyeurism]. [[User:ClaudeMcH|ClaudeMcH]] ([[User talk:ClaudeMcH|talk]]) 14:55, April 6, 2022 (EDT)

== Open free market act isnt about free speech ==

This need to be reported on main page, from [[Revolver news]]: [https://www.revolver.news/2022/04/beware-anti-big-tech-legislation-has-a-free-speech-poison-pill/ Beware: Anti-Big Tech Legislation Has a Free-Speech Poison Pill], This act contain many loopholes that would allow apps to continue with their censorship.

Open App Markets: “a covered company shall not be in violation of section 3 for an action that is—(A) necessary to achieve user privacy, security, or '''digital safety'''…“
AICOA: “It shall be an affirmative defense to an action under paragraph (1), (2), or (3) of subsection (a) if the defendant establishes by a preponderance of the evidence that the conduct was narrowly tailored, nonpretextual, and reasonably necessary to—(B) protect '''safety''', user privacy, the security of nonpublic data, or the security of the covered platform…”

Revolver news continued: Neither loophole actually defines what “safety” is, but the word is already well-established in the tech world as a euphemism for “censorship.” [[YouTube]]’s calls its content moderation division YouTube Trust and Safety; [[Twitter]]’s moderation advisory group is the Twitter Trust and Safety Council; the World Economic Forum’s initiative to increase digital censorship is titled Advancing Global Digital Content Safety; in the U.K., [[Boris Johnson]]’s new bill to combat “disinformation and misinformation” online is called the Online Safety Bill. When Apple banned [[Parler]] after [[January 6 Capitol protests|January 6]], it was to stop “threats to people’s safety.” When [[Amazon]] followed behind and kicked Parler off Amazon Web Services, it was because the company “poses a very real risk to public safety.”

It’s unsurprising, then, that other pro-censorship organs of the U.S. government are fully on-board. During his confirmation hearings, Attorney General [[Merrick Garland]] promised a crusade against “online misinformation.” But clearly, he doesn’t see new antitrust bills as a threat to that crusade. On Monday, the Department of Justice publicly endorsed AICOA, claiming that monopolistic practices were harmful not just to American consumers, but also to “our democracy” (*eye roll*). --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 18:15, April 6, 2022 (EDT)
:No one else took [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc9hZSK0y84 this song] seriously, so why did you? Tell your family they have my deepest sympathies. [[User:KenDeMeyertheasswipe|KenDeMeyertheasswipe]] ([[User talk:KenDeMeyertheasswipe|talk]]) 10:13, April 7, 2022 (EDT)

=='Eastern Ukraine' vs Donbas==
The predominantly Russian Donbas region has always been known as Donbas - up until 2014. As part of the [[Soros]] [[OSF]] and CIA front NED (National Endowment for Democracy) -backed "de-Russification policy since 2014, 'Eastern Ukraine' is what MSM and other sources use. That, and other laws restricting the Russian language, is part of an [[ethnic cleansing]] campaign.

Just a heads up. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 21:59, April 6, 2022 (EDT)

:The Ukrainian language, such that it is, sounds kinda like Ebonics to Russian speakers - it has a limited vocabulary and has to rely on Russian for more technical, scientific, educational, and bureaucratic terms. So the intolerant Ukrainian 'democracy' that passed laws forbidding the Russian language after the U.S.-backed "revolution of dignity" was motivated by nothing other than hate. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 22:23, April 6, 2022 (EDT)

== Joe Biden's tax returns ==

$13 million of the $17 million Joe and Jill Biden made in 2017 to 2019 was through non-transparent S corporations. Joe has released his personal tax returns, but not his S corporation returns. This money supposedly represents speaking fees and book deals. When Biden decided not to run in 2016, he must have thought, "It's finally Biden time. I'm gonna cash in." See "[https://thefederalist.com/2022/04/06/joe-bidens-released-tax-returns-dont-explain-millions-in-income-where-did-it-come-from/ Joe Biden’s Released Tax Returns Don’t Explain Millions In Income. Where Did It Come From?]" [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 22:18, April 6, 2022 (EDT)

:We have to look at his Schedule K which was included in 1040. Biden made $13 million in speaking and book deals? On what planet? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 22:25, April 6, 2022 (EDT)
:What we'll find on the Schedule K are S corps created by the "smartest man alive", [[Hunter Biden]]. Tony Bobulinski may be of some help. Also, the names of some of Hunter's S corps are in our Hunter Biden article, although not assembled in a list, yet. Ron Johnson's Senate Report also may be of some help.
:Shooting from the hip, $17 million certainly is in the ballpark coming from Ukraine and China; Rudy Guiliani also says quite a bit came from [[Romania]], but the FBI/DOJ shut down open public discussion of that in late 2019. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 22:33, April 6, 2022 (EDT)

:Every business has a SIC Code (Standard Industrial Code) which is not too difficult to discover and available in business directories like InfoUSA. Speaking and book income would come from a public relations firm or the like. But Rosemont Seneca Technology Partners isn't a PR firm - it's the firm that gets [[kickback]]s of Pentagon funding to [[Metabiota]] which operates Ukrainian biolabs.
:The upside of the Biden presidency has been a more widespread exposure of how the corrupt DC system operates to enrich itself. People like Pelosi and the Clintons were a bit more clever, but the idiot Biden's have ripped the lid off the system.
:You never want a crisis to go to waste. In 2008, Bernanke and Paulson had a meeting with Congressional leaders and said we need an immediate Congressional cash infusion of $175 billion or it's the end of civilization as we know it. Shocked, the leaders said "That's a tall order. Can we have the weekend to think about it?" Bernanke and Paulson said okay, but stressed the need for immediate action. The next Monday they met again, and Congress said, "Will $475 billion be enough?" We just saw the same thing with the Ukrainian aid package. It originally was $1 billion, doubled overnight to $2 billion, and by the end of the week was $14 billion. All this was played out in public, but Congress usually needs a few days to instruct all their Hunter Bidens, Frank Pelosis, and Hugh Rodhams to set up S corps to receive kickbacks. 04:46, April 7, 2022 (EDT)
:Another example: in preparation for the Afghan war in 2001, the Bush Admin asked for $400 million for humanitarian relief for the Afghan people. The UN said it should be $500 million (everyone is in on the corrupt system). Biden the compassionate warmonger said neither figure was enough, and persuaded Congress to appropriate $1 billion. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 04:59, April 7, 2022 (EDT)

== Please Add To In The News ==

Please Add To ''In The News''

"Republican registrations surge in Pennsylvania in warning sign for Democrats" reports Reuters. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republican-registrations-surge-in-pennsylvania-in-warning-sign-for-democrats/ar-AAVXr5y?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=56638804fa0e44e4c24f941bdece265e --[[User:TheNewRight|TheNewRight]] ([[User talk:TheNewRight|talk]]) 10:56, April 7, 2022 (EDT)
:Another thing to add: "President Trump endorses patriot [[Sarah Palin]] for Congress in Alaska." [https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-h4q7rmrnaw1806]
::Also, this could be added: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/washington-secrets/trump-not-biden-better-for-america-42-28 Thank you!--[[User:TheNewRight|TheNewRight]] ([[User talk:TheNewRight|talk]]) 14:15, April 7, 2022 (EDT)
:::Also: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kenosha-county-ravaged-by-blm-riots-flips-red-after-decades-of-dem-leadership/ar-AAVVBfY?ocid=uxbndlbing --[[User:TheNewRight|TheNewRight]] ([[User talk:TheNewRight|talk]]) 00:30, April 8, 2022 (EDT)
::::Kenoshja flipped red prior to 2020 Democrat voter fraud. 17:51, April 8, 2022 (EDT)
:::::Yes, but this referring to the county level, not at the presidential level--[[User:TheNewRight|TheNewRight]] ([[User talk:TheNewRight|talk]]) 23:09, April 8, 2022 (EDT)

== What Should Putin Do? ==

I've said much of what I've had to say about who's at fault for war breaking out in Ukraine. But now that war has broken out, what should Putin do about it?

Contrary to popular belief, Vladimir Putin's political movement is not right-wing nationalist. Rather, it's big tent. He has supporters on the left, the right, the center, and the syncretic. The various factions that compose his movement support him for wildly varying reasons, and he has to constantly juggle around his policies in order to keep those factions in place. Should he drop a ball, it could be potentially catastrophic for him.

That being said, because Putin's political movement is so big tent there inevitably will be kooks wishing to whisper in his ear. The most obvious such kooks that come to mind are Aleksandr Dugin and the recently deceased Vladimir Zhirinovsky. But right now I want to talk about another one: Timofey Sergeytsev. On Sunday, Sergetsev published [https://ria.ru/20220403/ukraina-1781469605.html this article] on the RIA Novosti website. From an American conservative perspective, the article's basic premise can be rooted in what I would call "'''woke nationalism'''." According to Sergeytsev, Ukrainian national identity is rooted in Nazism, much of the Ukrainian population are passive and perhaps self-unaware Nazis, Ukrainian Nazism is worse than German Nazism because of its more passive nature, and that these ills must be corrected through a "denazification" which involves not merely destroying groups like the Azov Battalion and Right Sector, but the total destruction of Ukrainian national identity. Now, do those rhetorical devices sound familiar to you?

This rhetoric is at best extremely reckless and at worst an active call for genocide of Ukrainians. It also has the potential to further radicalize both sides of the conflict, which is already descending into mutual genocide as it is.

Now back to Putin and his big tent. As the conflict escalates, the radical factions will be making increasingly harsh demands. And this could result in pro-Russian fighters who believe in the ideologies of these radical factions to begin committing atrocities on their own accord, which of course will be blamed on Putin by the international community even if he didn't order them. And ironically, it could even give rise to Russian parallels to the Azov Battalion and Right Sector (although such groups are much more likely to be "[https://polcompball.miraheze.org/wiki/National_Bolshevism Nazbols]" or "[https://polcompball.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Fourth_Theory Duginites]" than actual neo-Nazis). I'm sure Putin understands this reality, but is struggling internally on how to address it without destabilizing his government.

So, what should Putin do here? Thoughts?--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 14:37, April 7, 2022 (EDT)
:I dunno; whatever you're talking about probably made sense to you, but I can't make heads not tails out of it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 08:44, April 8, 2022 (EDT)
::Here’s the “too long, didn’t read” version:
::1) Putin’s political movement is not just big tent, it’s a gigantic tent.
::2) This gigantic tent includes kooks on the far left, the far right, and the far syncretic. Examples include Alessandr Dugin, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, and Timofey Sergeytsev.
::3) There are factions of the Russian military who answer to those kook ideologies, and are ready to not only commit genocidal atrocities but also claim they are doing so on Putin’s behalf even if they aren’t. This in turn could not only empower the Ukrainian neo-Nazis but also give rise to Russian equivalents to them (although those groups are much more likely to be “Nazbols” than actual neo-Nazis).
::4) If such atrocities occur, Putin will be blamed for it no matter what.
::5) It is now up to Putin to do what he can to prevent the war from spiraling out of control. In conflicts like this one, atrocities can occur spontaneously, out of nothing but the passions of the lower levels of the military hierarchy and/or ordinary civilians who are not obligated to take orders from officers or generals. But the question is, what ''should'' Putin do?--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 13:57, April 8, 2022 (EDT)
:::"Since Putin came to power two decades ago, more than 2 million Russians have left the country in what has been called the “Putin Exodus.” Since Russia invaded Ukraine in late February, hundreds of thousands of additional Russians have fled — many of whom are in the tech sector now trying to work remotely from neighboring countries. These include some of Russia’s great minds."[https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3255518-the-us-can-help-putin-lose-the-war-for-russias-future/]

:::Putin will be pushed from power or he will stay in power and stunt Russia's future. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:09, April 8, 2022 (EDT)

::::Most of the Russian ex-pats are economic refugees, not political. And people with higher technical skills, like nuclear or computer science, are baited with higher salaries. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 17:48, April 8, 2022 (EDT)
::::Geo: despite your Western perspective and penchant for labels, I think what you are talking about is the Russian mainstream. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 18:13, April 8, 2022 (EDT)
:::::If it ''is'' the Russian mainstream, then this verifies my suspicions on what this conflict will end up becoming: '''a crisis war.''' I'll be dedicating another topic to this concept.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 10:41, April 9, 2022 (EDT)
Putin should do what GWB and the neocons should have done in Afghanistan and Iraq in 2004 or so: wish for a time machine to undo something that was clearly not well thought-out, or, barring that, declare victory and go home before more young people die for no good reason. (But I'm a Christian pacifist who doesn't believe in war and killing, so, you know, your mileage may vary...) [[User:ClaudeMcH|ClaudeMcH]] ([[User talk:ClaudeMcH|talk]]) 18:01, April 8, 2022 (EDT)
:Ukraine is on the verge of being de-militarized; Zelensky should do the humanitarian thing and ask for peace before 60,000 Ukrainian troops eat a thermobaric in the [[Donbas cauldron]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 18:15, April 8, 2022 (EDT)
:The good news for the West is, there will be an oversupply of Ukrainian birthing persons of marriageable age; they're already advertising on social media. But who cares? They're all gay in the West anyway. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 18:21, April 8, 2022 (EDT)
::Gotta hand it to you, son. Keeping up this level of trolling since 2007 shows remarkable commitment. I just insert some horrible stuff in every year or so to see what'll stick, and then I get bored, but you just keep pushing and pushing. This was supposed to be a research resource for homeschooled children, but you've done yeoman's work to make it a clearing-house for unhinged, hateful conspiracy-mongering, and you've helped nudge a guy with a Harvard Law degree into an intellectual gutter. If only TK were still breathing so he could see your awesome work. Hugs and kisses. [[User:ClaudeMcH|ClaudeMcH]] ([[User talk:ClaudeMcH|talk]]) 18:44, April 8, 2022 (EDT)
:::Hateful? It's the government of Ukraine that has been murdering its own citizens since 2014. Are those your buddies? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 19:16, April 8, 2022 (EDT)
::::What, me? Nah, I long ago figured out that just because there was a conflict, that didn't mean that one of the parties has to be the "good guy." Sometimes it's just two thuggish governments slugging it out. I mean, do you think the British and French Empires were bastions of freedom in 1914-19 and 39-45? Because big chunks of humanity under their yoke would have had something to say about that. Same with Stalin v. Hitler. While Putin should be rightfully condemned for violating Ukraine's sovereignty and for the crimes committed as a result of that, it doesn't make Ukraine as pure as the driven snow. But we digress. Like I said, keep up the excellent work. Hugs and kisses. [[User:ClaudeMcH|ClaudeMcH]] ([[User talk:ClaudeMcH|talk]]) 20:05, April 8, 2022 (EDT)
:::::Thanks for clarifying that. So you are on the side of the NATO-backed Ukrainian genocidal regime and favor a continued policy of ethnic cleansing of Russians and Russian speakers from the Donbas so that Western corporatist interests can seize and exploit the oil and gas reserves and manufacturing base there. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 20:15, April 8, 2022 (EDT)
::::::It's like you didn't even read what I wrote. I'm not on any side except that of God's children who are dying so that powerful and rich men can advance their interests. I just want innocent people to stop dying. I have no ideology that gets advanced by anybody dying. [[User:ClaudeMcH|ClaudeMcH]] ([[User talk:ClaudeMcH|talk]]) 20:23, April 8, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::Innocent people won't stop dying until the Maidan regime and NATO commit to stop killing them. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 22:08, April 8, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::::It was way more fun when we were arguing about the Pacific arboreal octopus. Remember those days, Rob? Like I said, I only wish TK were around to see this. He'd be happy. Hugs and kisses. [[User:ClaudeMcH|ClaudeMcH]] ([[User talk:ClaudeMcH|talk]]) 00:07, April 9, 2022 (EDT)

== News need to be reported ==

[https://www.the-sun.com/news/4060291/china-slaughtering-covid-patient-pets/ CCP ruthlessly slaughtering pet dogs & cats of Covid patients in bid to stop the virus under draconian new law]

[https://summit.news/2022/04/07/shock-election-poll-le-pen-leads-macron/ Shock Election Poll: Nationalist Le Pen Leads election poll against Macron] --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 23:39, April 7, 2022 (EDT)
:China is run by godless communists. You can add material to [[Atheism and animal abuse]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:04, April 8, 2022 (EDT)
::LePen's surge presents an interesting dynamic; it's largely attributed to the disastrous consequences of the Russian sanctions. Trump already dumped LePen in favor of somebody else. It would be too late now for Trump to change horses. But whatever happens now makes Trump look small.
::Trump should not be in the business of endorsing foreign candidates for high office. We had legitimate complaints when Ukrainian officials interfered in our elections and endorsed Hillary Clinton. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 15:53, April 9, 2022 (EDT)

:: Maybe but also according to [[Paul Joseph Watson]], Macron made stupid comments on self defense which lead to drop of his popularity. see [https://summit.news/2022/04/06/president-macron-says-he-is-opposed-to-self-defense-after-farmer-shoots-one-of-four-burglars-who-broke-into-his-home/ President Macron Says He is “Opposed to Self-Defense” After Farmer Shoots One of Four Burglars Who Broke Into His Home] --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 14:24, April 10, 2022 (EDT)

:: But The most impressed thing in France that younger generations are one who most support populists like LePen and Zemmour. see this is from [[Daily Mail]]: [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10703161/Shock-poll-shows-tidal-wave-support-far-Right-candidate-Marine-Le-Pen-French-election.html French presidential election race narrows further as shock poll shows tidal wave of support for far-Right candidate Marine Le Pen among young voters as Macron battles to remain in power in tomorrow's showdown] --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 14:30, April 10, 2022 (EDT)
:::So Macron got 27%. LePen 24%, and the guy Trump endorsed got 7%. In my unabashed opinion, Trump needs to shut up about things he doesn't know about and has no business voicing an opinion and interfering in foreign elections. Without his endorsement of some unknown clutz, LePen would have smoked Macron. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 11:48, April 11, 2022 (EDT)

== Is the Russo-Ukrainian War a "Crisis War"? ==

I'm creating this topic in response to RobSmith's statement that the sentiments shown in [https://ria.ru/20220403/ukraina-1781469605.html this article] are becoming mainstream in Russia. If that is true, then there is a good chance that the Russo-Ukrainian War will become a "'''crisis war'''".

Now, I'm sure most if not all of you don't know what that term means. According to John Xenakis, an expert on generational theory, a "crisis war" is an extremely bloody, violent, genocidal war which serves as the "climax" of what William Strauss and Neil Howe called the "Crisis Era". When the war is over, the "Fourth Turning" is complete, and Strauss-Howe generational cycle resets. For the next 60 years or so, it is almost impossible for another crisis war to occur because the country's leadership is too traumatized by the events of the previous crisis war to wage another one. But once the generations who experienced the previous crisis war dies off, younger generations who do not understand their ancestors' trauma make the same mistakes which led to the previous crisis war. Another crisis war occurs, and history repeats itself. And again. ''And again''. '''''And again'''''.

Crisis wars have numerous traits which distinguish them from other wars. On [http://generationaldynamics.com/dl/GenerationalDynamicsForecastingAmericasDestiny.pdf pages 81 and 82] of his 2003 thesis ''Generational Dynamics'', Xenakis lays states that crisis wars have most if not ''all'' of the following:

1) The war was planned years if not decades in advance.

2) The country's leadership either started the war or responded to it energetically.

3) The energy for the war is bottom-up. As in, pro-war sentiment is even stronger among the people than among the leadership.

4) The war began during a severe financial crisis, and for many being a soldier is the only way to feed their families.

5) The people blame their war opponents for the aforementioned financial crisis.

6) Anti-war sentiment is almost non-existent.

7) Civilians are targeted on the battlefield.

8) The war is particularly violent and perhaps even genocidal.

9) The primary military strategy is offensive, not defensive.

10) The war results in major transformations (major governmental changes, major territorial changes, etc.).

11) The country is partially if not entirely occupied by enemy forces at some point during the war.

12) The war is so horrible that at its conclusion both sides are forced into unpleasant compromises, which create new fault line that likely will contribute to the next crisis war about 80 years later.

Now, let's apply the above information to Russia. According to Xenakis, Russia's last crisis war was the Russian Civil War (1917-22). Under normal conditions, the next crisis war should've taken place sometime between 1982 and 2002. But that didn't happen. Why? Because occasionally, the cycle is disrupted and the generational cycle resets prematurely. In this case, the disrupting factor was World War II. This conflict was not a crisis war for Russia, but it ''was'' a crisis war for Germany. Consequently, Germany brought to Russia atrocities which equaled (and in some cases even surpassed) those of the Russian Civil War. With such atrocities now once again fresh in the memories of the Russian people, the generational cycle reset about 57 years early, and the crisis war was delayed by about 23 years. Now, the crisis war was expected to take place sometime between 2005 and 2025. That right there is ''exactly'' why the collapse of the USSR was so peaceful. Had it not been for the disrupting factor that was World War II, the collapse of the USSR would've been far more violent and perhaps even led to World War III.

Now for the ultimate question. Is the Russo-Ukrainian war the beginning of the next crisis war for Russia? And if so, what should we expect?--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 11:28, April 9, 2022 (EDT)

:Interesting theory, only one flaw: the war was started by the United States in 2014 and its proxies in the [[Donbas war]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 11:58, April 9, 2022 (EDT)

::And now Russia is responding to the war energetically, so the war still meets the #2 trait you are referring to regardless of who started it.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 14:36, April 9, 2022 (EDT)

:::Your timeline gets screwed up. If you subtract 60 from 2014, you go back to about 1957 and the founding of what became the European Common Market and later the EU. It's no secret the whole foundation of the EU was created by the CIA's efforts to create a "United States of Europe" during the Cold War. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 15:58, April 9, 2022 (EDT)

::::You’re supposed to adding 60 years going forward, not subtracting them going backward. 60 years from the premature generational cycle reset caused by WWII is 2005, and one generation after that is 2025. The crisis war would most likely begin between those two dates, and both your 2014 start date and my 2022 start date would fit in that range.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 16:19, April 9, 2022 (EDT)
:::::i don't know, sounds a bit like Kondratiev wave theory. At one time I took seriously, then I dismissed it as the work of a bunch of bored academics, then recently I saw something that made me curious again.
:::::As to this Crisis theory, I think it just proves that subsequent generations are more stupid than their parents, refusing to listen and learn the lessons of history and which disproves the whole basis of ''[[Progressivism]]''. 18:56, April 9, 2022 (EDT)
::::::This theory is 100% apolitical. Its core premise is that history is stuck in an endless cycle where it is destined to repeat itself in varying ways, because the veterans of the last crisis war are unable to teach their descendants the lessons they learned from their wartime experiences. This in turn is not because the veterans are bad teachers, but because the descendants are bad students. The descendants, due to their lack of wartime experience, learn all the wrong lessons. And in the end they become arrogant and hubristic. And they make the same mistakes which lead to the last crisis war. And then another crisis war begins. And then the cycle begins again.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 22:23, April 10, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::Well yes, human nature is unchanging (in your phrase, "history is stuck in an endless cycle"). But there are other factors at work in human nature and human society that don't necessarily stick to a rigid timetable, such as Machiavelli's observation of the Medes growing "weak and effeminate through long periods of peace", or what the Prophet Isaiah said the sin of Sodom was, "idleness and full of bread." These things don't fit nicely into a recurring timetable, but they do occur, and are markedly noticeable in Western Europe right now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 22:38, April 10, 2022 (EDT)

The root [https://theprint.in/national-interest/ukraine-shows-war-is-always-about-greed-hatred-not-christianity-vs-islam-clash-of-civilisations/908876/ causes of the Ukraine-Russia war are greed, power, arrogance, hatred and hubris]. And once the dust settles and this war is over and the pandemic is over, European politics will be largely driven by economic concerns and concern about Islam growing (namely, the negative effects of that such Islamic terrorism, etc.). Anti-Islamic sentiments in Europe will cause the growth of right-wing populism. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:23, April 10, 2022 (EDT)
:We're in a new era. The war is not limited to the territory of Ukraine. The West appears to have taken the same gamble Putin did with its economic sanctions, which can mean suicide for the West and the globalist order.
:You apparently still view this war as just another post-1945 war. It's not. 20:37, April 10, 2022 (EDT)
:This is a challenge to the ''Pax Americana'' which has governed the planet since 1945. It didn't have to be this way. Russia could have been on the side of NATO ''against'' China, but globalists set the table this way. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 20:40, April 10, 2022 (EDT)
::The American foreign policy establishment has genocidal plans for both China ''and'' Russia. It also has genocidal plans for India, Iran, Pakistan, Turkey, and Ukraine. All because those seven countries are a threat to their "Eurasian Balkans" project. As long as these people remain in control, we will be seeing our relations with those seven countries getting worse and worse and worse. Eventually, it will reach a point where they will put aside their traditional hatreds for each other and form a grand anti-American alliance which would be virtually unstoppable.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 22:32, April 10, 2022 (EDT)
:::Another thing I'd like to add. Brzezinski also singled out France, Germany, and Japan as being immensely critical to the American imperial project, and that if any one of them defected from the American sphere of influence and aligned with any of the seven Eurasian powers, it could be a critical and perhaps fatal blow. So naturally we will be seeing the Deep State interfering in their domestic politics as much as possible.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 22:35, April 10, 2022 (EDT)
::::"The American foreign policy establishment has genocidal plans for both China and Russia. It also has genocidal plans for India, Iran, Pakistan, Turkey, and Ukraine." when [[Noam Chomsky]] says that, most conservatives call him a crank. Maybe y'all were wrong about that guy all along! Hugs and kisses, [[User:ClaudeMcH|ClaudeMcH]] ([[User talk:ClaudeMcH|talk]]) 22:37, April 10, 2022 (EDT)
:::::On this issue, many of us ''were'' wrong.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 22:46, April 10, 2022 (EDT)
::::::Geo: I think you keep getting ahead of yourself. The big news the past two days is Pakistan caved into U.S. colonialist demands and overthrew its populist prime minister (also known as "[[regime change]]" in contemporary rhetoric). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 22:54, April 10, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::I'm well aware of this development. Personally I have zero sympathy for Imran Khan, especially after he praised Osama bin Laden as a martyr.[https://www.breitbart.com/news/pakistans-prime-minister-says-us-martyred-bin-laden/] Granted, he's probably going to be replaced by someone even worse. But still, good riddance.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 01:30, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::The point here is, what you just witnessed was the Pakistani version of the Maidan coup. The U.S. gives a lot of money to Pakistan (basically, in the form of nuclear blackmail payments) and threatened to cut it off. Now that we've had the first 'regime change' in WWIII, Biden is set about to threaten Modi.
::::::::Speaking of Chomsky, [https://youtu.be/qfDsf9gBAWA MSNBC hosts psychotic warmonger] is worth eatching. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 01:52, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::Your trashing Imran Khan makes you sound like a neocon. And a conservative is not defined by tuff talk. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 09:59, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::::Imran Khan is not one of the good guys, RobS. Nobody who openly calls Osama bin Laden a “martyr” is a good guy. Choosing between Khan and whoever succeeds him is like choosing between bin Laden and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. I refuse to play that game, even if Khan was ousted by the CIA.
::::::::: The only sympathy I have here is for the Pakistani people, who are being targeted for genocide for the Deep State for reasons which have nothing to do with their government’s ideology. But I’m not gonna use that as a pretext to root for someone who supports the man behind 9/11. That’s just too much for me.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 11:39, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
[[File:C9Pak4-W0AIldKy (1).jpg|right|450px|thumb|Jake Sullivan
[http://www.defenddemocracy.org/a-conversation-with-jake-sullivan-video/] to Hillary Clinton: Al Qaeda is on our side.]]
::::::::::Wow. Now you sound like George Bush, John McCain, Barack Obama, and Joe Biden. Even Mitt Romney got off that horse 10 years ago. 2003 is calling - they want they want their foreign policy back. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 11:57, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::::::You want me to root for an open al-Qaeda supporter against the Deep State? The only way I’d ever do that would be if it were definitively proven that 9/11 was a total inside job, where Bush blew up the towers and al-Qaeda was totally innocent. Otherwise, I laugh at him for refusing to lie in the bed he made himself with such passion.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 12:53, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::::::At the end of the day, this regime change (if we can even call it that) will do very little to change the character of Pakistan’s government. It’s kind of like Brezhnev ousting Khrushchev, if you want a historical analogy.. And if any country knows that, it’s India. That’s why it’s response to Khan’s ouster has been nothing but one big “Meh, whatever.”--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 13:33, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::::::::See once again your arguments collapse into a bowl of jello. The Deep State and Al Qaeda have been open allies for 10 years. And yes, there is a big change in Pakistan. The regime change ends its neutrality and brings it back onto the plantation as a U.S. vassal state.[[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 14:09, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::::::::This "change" in Pakistan is about as big as the "change" which occurred in Saudi Arabia when MBS took over. In other words, ''minimal to none''. That's because Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are both Salafi/Wahhabi jihadist states at the most fundamental levels. Without Salafi/Wahhabi jihadism, they near-literally cannot exist.
::::::::::::::Thus, the ''only'' correct response to these countries is have absolutely ''nothing'' to do with them, let India and Iran take care of them, and perhaps occasionally bomb them into submission whenever one of their proxies attacks us. Which is what we should've done immediately after 9/11, but too bad Bush was a corrupt Deep Stater and thus tried to play both sides.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 15:46, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::You love them labels, doncha? and they paper over all the holes in your argument. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 16:04, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::Now you are going to deny that there have been significant social and foreign policy changes under MBS cause the MSM hasn't thumbnailed it for you yet? waiting for a crisis now to get your talking points? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 16:25, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::::::::::Everything that MBS has done is nothing but stealth jihadism crudely disguised as nationalist populism. And in case you forgot, a lot of what I've learned about him came from Lee Stranahan, who is about the furthest you can possibly get from MSM.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 23:19, April 11, 2022 (EDT)

:Ever since the U.S.-backed [[Maidan coup]], and the Russian-backed [[Crimean Annexation]], the Deep State has been plotting this confrontation with Russia. It was the root cause of the ferocious "whole of government" opposition to Donald Trump, spearheaded by John Brennan, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama (architects of the [[Arab Spring]] fiascoes) beginning mid to late 2015. The same fake news apparatus (revealed by [[Snowden]] then) that manufactured Trump-Russia lies is the same fake news apparatus now manufacturing the Ghost of Kiev, the Bucha massacre, and dozens of other [[psyops]] aimed at the American people.
::Your opinion on Bucha aside, you're right on the money. And yet for some bizarre reason so many within MAGA world, including Trump himself, are unable to make that connection. Instead, they keep resorting to neocon sloganeering about how war broke out because Biden was "weak." I can't tell if these people are ill-informed or if they were Deep State shills the whole time.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 01:30, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
:::It's for the same reason you're afraid to condemn Ukrainian Nazis for the Bucha massacre - the power of the U.S. 'media halo'. By attacking the unpopular Biden substitutes for sounding like a Putin proxy. As 2024 approaches, GOP candidates & Democrat primary challengers have to avoid the 2016 treatment Trump and Gen. Flynn got for sounding conciliatory toward Russia. Now, its how hard they push their anti-Putin pro-Nazi rhetoric, and how they behave after they win, that we'll have to judge them. 01:52, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
::::I'm not convinced that either Russia ''or'' Ukraine are telling the truth about what happened at Bucha. Both are guilty of killing civilians, but neither are willing to admit that, for obvious reasons. So naturally they're gonna be saying that the other was responsible for 100% of the civilian casualties. Personally, I suspect that the truth is somewhere in the middle.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 02:14, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
:::::If Russia has killed civilians, its [[collateral damage]] because Ukrainian troops have been trained by Americans to use civilians as [[human shields]]; Ukraine, by contrast, has been killing Russian-speakers and Russian sympathizers for 8 years already, and the dead in Bucha all had white arm bands given to them by Russians to mark them as non-combatants. IOWs, they were deemed collaborators by Ukrainian security services (SBU). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 02:59, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
::::::I not convinced Russian-inflicted civilian casualties have been limited strictly to Ukrainian human shields. What I see playing our looks much more like a “mutual genocide” along the lines of 1990s Yugoslavia and 1940s India.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 11:49, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::I think you're nuts and a Nazi subversive. At least you can be considered a 'good Nazi' now, with all the ongoing historical revisionism (see your above statement, ''"veterans of the last crisis war are unable to teach their descendants the lessons they learned from their wartime experiences. This in turn is not because the veterans are bad teachers, but because the descendants are bad students. The descendants, due to their lack of wartime experience, learn all the wrong lessons."''). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 15:44, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::You clearly don't see the parallels between this crisis, 1990s Yugoslavia, and 1940s India. If I have to spell it out for you, so be it.
::::::::'''All three crises arose from the breakup of a larger state among ethno-religious lines.'''
::::::::In 1947, India was partitioned into two states: Hindu-majority India and Muslim-majority Pakistan. This directly contributed to a mutual genocide between Hindus and Muslims, which resulted in as many as two million deaths. This was India and Pakistan's last crisis war, by the way.
::::::::In 1992, Yugoslavia broke up into numerous states among religious lines. This led to several extremely bloody conflicts known as the Yugoslav Wars. One of those wars was the Croatian War of Independence, during which there was a mutual genocide between Catholic Croatians and Orthodox Serbs. This genocide was so blatant that leaders on ''both'' sides ended up being charged with war crimes (although so far the only actual convictions have been of Serbian leaders). This was Yugoslavia's last crisis war, by the way.
::::::::And now in 2022, we are seeing Russia and Ukraine fighting an extremely bloody war over territorial disputes which arose from the breakup of the USSR over 30 years ago. And as I stated before, the only reason this conflict didn't break out in 1991 was because of the generational cyclical reset which was World War II. Back then, the leadership of both countries were old enough to remember the horrors of that war, and thus ''refused'' to fight a war like this one against their old battlefield brothers. But now, that generation of leadership is either dead or long retired. Their children and grandchildren are the ones in charge. And because they didn't ''experience'' the horrors of World War II first hand, they cannot and will not develop the instincts their parents and grandparents developed during those years. They think of the war in much more simplistic terms, and thus have a far greater tendency to commit atrocities against each other. And commit atrocities they will, and have.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 16:49, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::Here's what I don't get: the Bucha massacre was brought to you by the neocons, yet even with the slightest hint you don't seize upon it, but you would if somehow a Republican official could be connected. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 16:38, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::The neocon narrative is that Russia killed every single one of those civilians, and that Ukraine killed exactly zero. I do not buy that one.
::::::::The Russian narrative is that Ukraine killed every single one of those civilians, and that Russia killed exactly zero. I do not buy that one either.
::::::::And so, I am settling with a third narrative. If neocons want to call me a Russian sympathizer for it, so be it. And if Russians want to call me a neocon for it, so be it.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 16:49, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::::Is this proof enough that the fascist Zelensky regime murdered the civilians of Bucha? Here's the regime making the announcement they are sending in the 'Safari force' to dehumanize and hunt down collaborators two days after the Russians left, [https://en.lb.ua/news/2022/04/02/12441_special_forces_regiment_safari.html] and here's Zelensky's Nazi goons on the same day, on your dime and in your name, beating up and abducting civilians wearing the Russian-issued white armband. [https://twitter.com/NG_Strategy/status/1511921181259022343] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 02:36, April 18, 2022 (EDT)

:::::::::Whoops! I forgot to say what that third narrative is. My apologies.
:::::::::There were numerous civilian casualties inflicted before, during, and after the Russian occupation of Bucha. Many, if not most of the Russian-inflicted casualties were caused by Kadyrovite militias, who have a reputation of being just as if not even more bloodthirsty than the Azov Battalion. And of course there were at least a few casualties caused by Russian soldiers who saw no difference between military and civilian thanks to being under the influence of propagandists like Dugin, Zhirinovsky, and Sergeyev. Once Bucha was liberated, the Ukrainian military committed reprisal atrocities against both Russian soldiers and civilians who they either saw as collaborationists or as collateral damage for further propaganda. Aside from that, there is no way to tell how exactly things went down, because the numbers keep changing all the time and neither side seems willing to tell the whole truth. Typical behavior for conflicts like this one, if you ask me.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 17:16, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::::Sometimes, governments are willing to lie even when they don't need to, just for optics. Just ask China. Instead of admitting that COVID was manufactured at the Wuhan lab and that the virus was probably released by a CIA agent who infiltrated the lab, China thinks it needs to go the extra mile and lie about ''how'' the virus was released, and make up this story about how COVID was actually released by American troops who were visiting Wuhan as part of the World Military Games.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 17:21, April 11, 2022 (EDT)

:::::::::Excellent take [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU-xs8PcS7E here] by Colonel Macgregor. He expresses his doubts about the neocon narrative but stops short of fully embracing the Russian counternarrative. He even goes into the possibility of Russian troops committing atrocities on their own accord out of anger and frustration, while also pointing out that other militaries are guilty of similar acts, including our own. Basically, his take is very similar to mine, although he expresses it differently than I do. And we both know he's no neocon.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 21:23, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::::I don't know; I kinda think all you revisionists and Nazi apologists are just a bunch of Holocaust deniers. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 22:25, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::::I assume you consider Colonel Macgregor to be a Holocaust denier as well?--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 22:34, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::::::I saw what MacGregor said, and no way does he sound like a Nazi apologist. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]`
::::::::::::And yet I am a Nazi apologist, for making a nearly identical argument as him?--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 22:50, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::::::Honestly, RobS. This is getting old. You have this weird obsession with trying to prove that I'm some nefarious infiltrator, and you're willing to twist pretty much anything I say in order to create your "proof" out of thin air. I don't know what caused you to develop this obsession, but you need to knock it off.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 23:06, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::::::::You unveil a theory of Deep State genocide, and when evidence is before your face of your own theory, [https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-flapping-lips-flapping-lips-with-finger-blb-bubbling-lips-gif-23880817 here's your reaction].
:::::::::::::[https://youtu.be/LkbUS2vKCI0 It's not a scoop when you shoot your own people]. 23:10, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::::::::You have done absolutely nothing to disprove my theory. I argued that both Russia ''and'' Ukraine are guilty of genocide. If you believe ''only'' Ukraine is guilty, then you should be making counter-arguments in favor of Russian innocence. But you're not doing that. Instead, you're making arguments in favor of Ukrainian guilt, completely ignoring the fact that I agree with you that Ukraine is guilty. Arguments in favor of Ukrainian guilt are ''not'' arguments in favor of Russian innocence. ''You need to keep your issues separate''.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 23:44, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::If anyone needs to see this video it would be you: [https://youtu.be/zKbfKx2DeNQ Gruesome Secrets Of Bucha: FORENSICS from "THE GUARDIAN"]. If you accept the challenge, you need to see it all the way through - all 30 minutes. And I hope it does wonders for your ego and analytical powers. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 00:12, April 12, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::::::::::Just watched the video. The full 30 minutes, even though I already knew what his point was by the 14 minute mark.
::::::::::::::::The central theme of the video is that there is a lack of hard evidence proving that Russia killed every single one of the victims, and disposed of the bodies in that manner. Which is true. But you know what else is missing? Hard evidence proving that ''Ukraine'' killed every single one of the victims, and disposed of the bodies in that manner, in order to commit a false flag event. So we have no hard evidence proving either the neocon narrative ''or'' the Russian counternarrative. Not only that, we don't even have a coherent narrative as to how many people were killed, and how many of them were civilians (keep in mind that at one point the mayor of Bucha said that "hundreds of Russian soldiers" were among the bodies found[https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/04/02/bucha-bodies-russia-retreat-kyiv/]). So what other choice do you, me, Macgregor, and Gerrans have but to make our own guesses while there are still facts to be determined?
::::::::::::::::Out of the four of us, you're the only one pushing the idea that every single one of the victims were killed by the Ukrainians. Gerrans is totally agnostic on who actually did it. Macgregor thinks it's possible at least some of the victims were killed by the Russians because "some soldiers get angry and frustrated, and they snap." I think it's probable that at least some of the victims were killed by the Russians because the conflict is a "crisis war," and to a lesser extent because there were Kadyrovites present in Bucha during the occupation. And yet, at the same time the four of us have something in common. We don't believe the "official" MSM narrative, and we believe in an alternative narrative.
::::::::::::::::And yet, in spite of all of the above, you continue to lie and falsely accuse me of being a leftist infiltrator. Because you live in your own egotistical bubble where everything you like is "conservative" and everything you dislike is "liberal." And since you dislike me on a personal level (probably because you don't want "lazy Millennials" like me, ChadUser, and Vince Did 7-14 to take control of the conservative movement away from "holier than thou Boomers" like you), you think literally ''anything'' is fair game when it comes to dealing with me. I could say something that nearly everybody you've been citing since February 24 would agree with (such as that Mike Pompeo is a scumbag). If they said it, you would call them wrong. But since I said it, you would call me a leftist infiltrator and a bunch of other names which in the end are nothing but a bunch of troll garbage. And you think you can get away with it, because I don't have blocking powers like Dataclarifier, Karajou, and Northwest.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 14:16, April 12, 2022 (EDT)

:::::The SBU even murdered a peace negotiator trying to establish humanitarian corridors for civilians, remember?; why would they shrink from murdering common citizens that they will not allow to leave urban environments because they are needed as human shields? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 03:01, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
:::::After 2014, many high ranking members of the Azov Battalion moved into the SBU, and new recruits moved up and took their place. The Azov battalion has been the career fast-track to power. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 03:05, April 11, 2022 (EDT)

:Mind you, all this was before the word "covid" was invented or entered the vocabulary. The subject of Bill Gates and a de-population agenda we'll just have to address at another time and place. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 23:05, April 10, 2022 (EDT)

== Please Add To In The News ==

Please Add To ''In The News''

'''BREAKING: [[Marine Le Pen]] advances to runoff in the French Presidential Election.''' ''She will face globalist incumbent President Emmanuel Macron'' https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/emmanuel-macron-to-face-far-right-candidate-marine-le-pen-in-french-presidential-election-exit-polls-show/ar-AAW4454?ocid=uxbndlbing --[[User:TheNewRight|TheNewRight]] ([[User talk:TheNewRight|talk]]) 14:56, April 10, 2022 (EDT)
::Fearless prediction: la deuxième ronde n'ira pas très bien pour Mme. Le Pen: tout les personnes qui vont la supporté s'ont déja s'exprimés. Macaron va avoir peu de difficulté à rassembler un majorité des voix qui ont voté pour les autres canditats. [[User:ClaudeMcH|ClaudeMcH]] ([[User talk:ClaudeMcH|talk]]) 17:55, April 10, 2022 (EDT)

==Propaganda==
*[https://youtu.be/VTKRnIvkfuA Nazi recruiting video for ISIS mercenaries who fought Russians in Syria].
The following videos are Russian, and obviously violate the Geneva Convention prohibition on using POWs for propaganda purposes. But given NATO & the Ukraine's violations of the so-called 'humane rules of war', the Russians now are playing catch-up in the propaganda war. The first confesses to the murder of a civilian, [https://youtu.be/axxbGlHGJUk] the second is a kid who claims to have been recruited a month ago and didn't know he'd be instructed to kill civilians. Note the Iron Cross tattoo on his right arm. [https://youtu.be/fgX8e1MD48k] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 20:16, April 10, 2022 (EDT)
*[https://youtu.be/LzP5-SbsdbU Public support for Russian troops headed to Ukraine]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 20:18, April 10, 2022 (EDT)
*[https://youtu.be/eKX3tnj_X08 Islamic Chechen leader addresses captured Ukrainian POWs on the dangers of extremist ideology.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 23:45, April 10, 2022 (EDT)

This report from 2016, if you turn on the CC and English auto translate, you will see that since the U.S.-backed Maidan coup, the people of Ukraine have been subjected to the same willful media blindness about the violence of Nazis against Ukrainian citizens that we in the United States have been subjected to since the summer of 2020 and reporting on Antifa and BLM violence. [https://youtu.be/uZ2xi7FpPl8] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 02:12, April 11, 2022 (EDT)

This is how the Russians even the score in the propaganda war, by [https://youtu.be/lTV2_OWPdLM tailoring their message to the 60,000 AFU forces] trapped in the Donbas with no gas to escape. Remember all the stories of the glorious Javelin and NLAW saving Ukraine's 'democracy'? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 12:16, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
:These guys are victims of their own propaganda - the comparisons of Ukrainian Nazis to [[Tiananmen Square]] protesters standing in front of tanks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 12:20, April 11, 2022 (EDT)
:There is a an alternative theory here, and that is these guys blew away their own guys with a tank. Ukrainians get off on killing, after doing it for 8 years, and got trigger happy after winning the applause and encouragement from Facebook. The theory goes they were taking selfies around a destroyed Russian tank, and when a AFU tank approached, the one guy tries to signal it but the whole group gets blown away the next instant. The tank evidently thought they were Russians around the destroyed Russian tank. As in ''Platoon'', 'First killer who kills lives to kill another day.' [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 00:50, April 12, 2022 (EDT)

== Macron endorsments ==

Globalist establishment president received endorsements from all communist, socialists green parties and impressed one from Neoconservative Valérie Pécresse from Les Républicains to Macron, while Zemour was only one who endorse Le Pen for runoff. even Far left candidate Jean-Luc Mélenchon retracted his statements and said: We know for whom we will never vote! You must not give your vote to Madame Le Pen!

[https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220410-french-socialist-green-right-wing-candidates-back-macron-in-election-run-off-against-le-pen French Socialist, Green, conservative candidates back Macron in election run-off against Le Pen] --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 17:59, April 11, 2022 (EDT)

== Russian warship, go... ==

[https://tass.ru/proisshestviya/14372453 ...something, something.] I forget what exactly, but I remember it sounding quite pithy. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 21:46, April 13, 2022 (EDT)
:Accident, sabotage, or a missile strike. I'd reckon one of the first two. Should the Ruskie's go ahead with a Odessa cauldron (which I deem unlikely despite the present feint) it's not necessarily irreplicable. It'll be back in service long before the [https://wonderfulengineering.com/americas-aircraft-carrier-is-on-fire-for-last-two-days-and-might-never-return-to-service/ Bonhomme Richard is back in action for the upcoming invasion of Taiwan]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 22:01, April 13, 2022 (EDT)
::Odessa has been off the table since they stalled at Mykolaiv and tried (and completely failed) to go the long way round. Now, a genuine anti-ship capability in and around Odessa releases most of the Ukrainian manpower and materiel that had to be kept there just in case the Russians were still nuts enough to attempt a landing without any additional support arriving from the east. That's bad news for your chums in Kherson, and eventually, bad news for all the land-based supply lines from Crimea sustaining the effort in the south. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 11:49, April 14, 2022 (EDT)
:::What we're discovering is the extent to which you've been victimized by CIA propaganda. The Russians did not begin the with 120,000 troops; it was more like 80,000. Likewise, to take a city, the rule of thumb is 1:10, meaning it would take 300,000 troops take a city of 3 million like Kyiv. So Milley & the CIA have been feeding you B.S. from the start to create a "Russia failed" narrative. of the 80,000, they moreless split between the Kyiv and the Donbas front.
:::Casualites have been roughly about 2.5-3 to 1 in favor of the Russians since the start. The only delay in the Donbas right now is concern for civilians, but the Ukies are out of gas and running low on ammunition. If Zelensky and his NATO masters really want to fight in Donbas, they'll lose more men in an afternoon than the United States did in Vietnam in 10 years. NATO doesn't give a rip, and Zelensky probably doesn't either. He's got his villa in Miami already. He'll be good for ratings on ''The View'' and Trevor Noah. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 21:39, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

:::According to Southfront, NATO was involved in Moskva incident. That's bad news for the planet. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 12:55, April 14, 2022 (EDT)
::::Putin reminds me of the fighter Drago in Rocky IV. He looked big and impressive for awhile, but as Mike Tyson said, "Everyone has a plan until he is punched in the mouth." The Russian Army has terrible logistics and poor morale. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:03, April 14, 2022 (EDT)
::::::Still breathing and spewing CIA propaganda, huh? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 17:10, April 14, 2022 (EDT)
:::::Particularly terrible logistics for [https://warontherocks.com/2021/11/feeding-the-bear-a-closer-look-at-russian-army-logistics/ this kind of expeditionary warfare.] Structurally, they're geared for territorial defence within or just beyond Russia's borders. The whole thing would start creaking once they got ~100 miles from their dedicated railheads, even if it wasn't beset by reliability issues due to shoddy maintenance and training; large-scale corruption and embezzlement at staff level; and more general petty theft of fuel, spare parts and tools from within the ranks.
::::::warontherocks, seriously? George W. Bush contributes to warontherocks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 23:51, April 16, 2022 (EDT)
:::::To add insult to injury, their much vaunted BTG formations turn out to be so light on infantry that they can't adequately screen their armour on manoeuvre. They have to stand off and rely on long-range fires, else they're sitting ducks for small unit ambush as they roll past. Proper close air support would help, but they're apparently incapable of that as well. Epic called and wants all his fails back. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 15:43, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

::::::That's all well and nice. And it's a good argument for nuclear war, seeing that is all that remains to fight NATO aggression. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 16:58, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

::::::I just don't see the Russians saying, "Woops. We don't want to spoil the planet for a couple of thousand years, so we're just going to have to bow to a bunch of transexual Nazis." I just don't see that as an option they are considering. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 17:07, April 14, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::Don't be silly. An otherwise healthy man who employs 20ft tables to avoid catching the 'rona isn't interested in starting WWIII. At some point, Putin will cut his losses and try his best to cling on to whatever remains of his power at home. He might not have much of an army left, but the FSB will still be intact and he'll still have most of his Rosgvardiya units ready to crack skulls on the streets of Moscow and St. Petersburg. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:27, April 14, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::There again, CIA propaganda is taking advantage of your lack of short term memory. Putin's not going to forget the U.S. biolabs on his doorstep, and he's already committed to resolving the problem.
::::::::And here we're not speaking of hypotheticals. We've recently experienced what U.S. bioweapons research can do. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 21:44, April 14, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::And for the record and psyops, most of the planet, Asia, Africa, Europe, and the Americas, has not forgotten either. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 21:46, April 14, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::::Rob, you don't believe this biolab / bioweapons guff any more than the Russians do. It's why it only emerges periodically when you're both stuck for a talking point. Putin will continue losing this war because it turns out he never had the army to pull it off in the first place. Sanctions will remain in place on Russia until he's dead and gone, and all the other Russian war criminals have been handed over for prosecution.

:::::::::Sweden and Finland will join NATO and China will find it's suddenly no longer quite so interested in the idea of an amphibious assault across 80 miles of the Taiwan Strait. A great many books will be written about Putin's monumental strategic blunder and its wider geopolitical impact. We're watching history being made in real-time, man. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 10:38, April 15, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::::Oh so you're a biolab denier now. Do you oppose inspection of the sites and documents, too.
::::::::::And you're becoming an object lesson in the use of psyops. If the MSM doesn't talk about it, this fairytale world you live in becomes reality. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 15:25, April 15, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::::::Yeah, man. I'm a Ukrainian Nazi cabal denier, too, but Russian state TV is increasingly pushing a "Satanist" angle, so perhaps we'll arguing less about that in the coming weeks. You should run with it. Some good, red-blooded Q-type stuff could do wonders for your web traffic and would really spice up your Putin fan fiction reporting on the war. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:48, April 15, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::::::I think your world of [[psyops]] and make believe is starting to crash down around you; your only choice now is accept reality or eat a [[nuke]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 00:43, April 17, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::::::::Whatever you say, Captain Cauldron. At least get a moon base or secret lair in there somewhere. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 12:55, April 17, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::::::::Go back and reread studies on the [[Battle of Kursk]]. You not only will learn about Russian military doctrine, but also about the dangers of over reliance on technology, and perpetual inferiority of '''American''' armored tank warfare (who didn't even participate in the battle). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 14:18, April 17, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::::::::I could write an Essay on the subject. The Germans over reliance on the latest, new improved technology bite them in the butt, when they ran out of spare parts and could not deliver to the battlefield, whereas the Russian "one size fits all" [[T-34]] proved superior. Americans could never compete with German and Russian tank building, cause you have to factor in the cost of building ships and airplanes to deliver them to the battlefield. Since 1945, (even before the creation of NATO) the U.S. has always relied on nukes for deterrence, and not armour. The facade of American tank warfare has been nothing but a waste of money for the [[military industrial complex]] for more than 75 years, kept alive by American congressmen in the 1950s and 60s who served in tank units and squandered billions in arms spending (which the Russians noticed. A debate rages right now about "Has the tank gone instinct as a weapon of war like horse?" [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUyAPQEb01Q&t=64s] Others propose equipping it with AWACS radar and AI to detect drones and lasar guided missiles (never mind the idea of robotic tanks). Yah, that's the solution, more expensive technology despite the lessons of history. Here the Russians cannot be accused of squandering billions on useless technology in an arms race. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 14:45, April 17, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::::::::Right now, your Ukrainian Nazi buds cannot even deliver gas or drinking water to the battlefield, whereas the Russians don't have a big problem changing their dirty underwear everyday on the battlefield. [https://www.bitchute.com/video/lbyWPdJXtXy2/] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 14:50, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

Putin/Russia is very much like Drago in Rocky IV. Drago took jabs from afar due to having long arms, but once closer quarter fighting/punching happened, he couldn't take the closer quarter punches for long. Drago didn't have as much heart as Rocky. Being that the Ukrainians are fighting on their home turf, they are far more motivated. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:11, April 14, 2022 (EDT)
:I think you are very poorly informed and brainwashed. That's not what's happening, at all. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 19:26, April 14, 2022 (EDT)
:Ukraine is now forming penal battalions. You, being a poorly informed American, probably have no idea what that is. So it'll take a crash course to explain, which I don't have the time at the moment. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 19:31, April 14, 2022 (EDT)
:Then you have this posted right there on Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/36obrmp/photos/a.129759847561437/1153205118550233] two days ago, right before 1,026 Ukie Marines (i.e. professional soldiers, not Nazis or conscripted convicted murderers in a penal battalion) surrendered enmasse.
{{quotebox-float|"...'''We talked to the commander in chief''' [Zelensky] who promised to unblock. We talked with a Garantee who guaranteed us either a political or military solution of the situation. For more than a month, the Marines fought without refilling ammunition, without food, without water, almost a lacquer from the puddle and died in packs. The mountain of wounded makes up almost half of the crew. Those who have unbroken limbs and can walk, return in order. Infantry all died... Gradually we are coming to an end. Wise generals advise taking ammunition from your enemy. Probably not extinct these Sava parquettes [?], '''so many people will die for them in vain.''' There were chances. '''There were opportunities, but due to the silliness, they were not implemented. No one wants to communicate with us anymore because we are written [off].''' ..."}}
:These, the best professional, non-Nazi, non-criminal (whom professional soldiers resent cause they give the soldiering profession a bad reputation) soldiers seem a bit demoralized, openly criticizing their commander-in-chief Zelensky and commanding generals with "safety parachutes" to escape the impending disaster, doesn't do much good for new recruits or the Ukrainian civilian population - now at the mercy of criminal gangs that Zelensky armed (incidentally, Bucha was the heart of where Zelensky handed out AK-47s to any criminal mobster who wanted one at the start of the war). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 19:42, April 14, 2022 (EDT)
:Right now, Putin, with his 83% approval rating for handling the war, is being criticized for being too restrained in response to all the outrages and war crimes committed by NATO. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 19:53, April 14, 2022 (EDT)
::Footnote: "lacquer from the puddle" means they took rainwater or melted snow, tried to boil it before drinking, but got sick and died anyway. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 19:59, April 14, 2022 (EDT)
::So, your motivated heroes are drinking water from mud puddles. Do you really think your repeating CIA B.S., is going to stop other Ukrainians from hearing the truth? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 20:02, April 14, 2022 (EDT)
:And next week, given the size of the vote of whatever [[Le Pen]] gets, can be considered an anti-globalist, anti-NATO, anti-Ukraine, pro-Russia pro-Putin vote, cause the French are a little bit more informed and aware of the issues at stake than American consumers of MSM/CIA agitprop. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 20:19, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

:The Ukies don't do quite so good in the open fields of the Donbas, [https://www.bitchute.com/video/C1aTkj4lGtwJ/] vs the urban areas where they use civilians as human shields (trained by the Americans) and the Russians have bent over backwards to protect civilians. Putin is getting a lot of criticism for this. But 60,000 Ukies will soon be drinking water out of mud puddles, not just the 4,000 in the [[Azovstal]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 20:31, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

:Propaganda and psyops has its place in warfare; the U.S. tried to combine it with military action in Vietnam and failed. In the internet age, I don't think you can rely on it solely (even with NATO transfers and commanders on the ground). Sure, psyops won Ukraine for NATO in the 2014 [[Maidan coup]] (that, with the addition of Nazi violence), But the Russians have sat quietly observing all this for more than 8 years now. Nobody can make atrocity propaganda like the Russians can, and there will be Nazi Tribunals before all this is over. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 20:41, April 14, 2022 (EDT)
::Putin is a dictator who controls state television. Who cares if gullible Russians approve of Putin? In Afghanistan, once the dead Russian soldiers started stacking up in terms of arriving back in Russia, the Russian people complained and Russia pulled out. The same will happen in the Ukraine conflict if it drags on. Russia is a doomed empire with a low fertility rate. In war, when only sons die, it has a big impact on Russian families. In the Russia/Afghanistan war, the loss of Afghani sons wasn't as traumatic to Afghanis because the larger Afghani/Muslim families had more than one son. Plus, the Afghani's had the home team advantage. They knew the terrain and fought harder because they were defending their homeland. Ukraine has the same home team advantage. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:12, April 15, 2022 (EDT)
:::P.S. The Nazis died out in the the 20th century. Now there is just a small population of neo-nazis who are very ineffectual. I hope you stop clinging to the notion that a large swath of Ukranians are Nazi German nationists. Just thought I would give you a heads up about this matter. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:33, April 15, 2022 (EDT)
::::Tell that to the mother's of the 60,000 about to eat a thermobaric in the Donbas. Question: When French voters vote the dictator Putin next week and against the globalist Macron, will you still be spewing Western globalist agitprop? See also yesterday's [https://www.wsj.com/?mod=nav_top_section Wall Street Journal: ''Deep suspicion of hegemonic media narratives has earned Vladimir Putin some sympathy in the Czech Republic, Hungary and Slovakia.]'' Or the German voters who already are ready to [https://globaleuronews.com/2022/04/03/scholz-booed-in-germany-after-words-on-ukraine-and-covid-19/ throw out Chancellor Schmaltz on his ear.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 00:35, April 15, 2022 (EDT)
::::P.S You don't know what a Nazi is. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 00:35, April 15, 2022 (EDT)
Ukraine's neo-Nazi battalion, the Azov Battalion, [https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/1/who-are-the-azov-regiment is estimated] to have 900 soldiers which is not a lot. Ukraine does have a neo-nazi problem, but Putin's claim of denazification as a justification for his landgrab is overblown. Ukraine has a leader who is Jewish. How can that be if Ukraine has a huge Nazi/neo-nazi problem? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:46, April 15, 2022 (EDT)
:::::[[Rinat Akhmetov]], funded Zelensky's campaign, funded the Azov battalion, owns the Azovstal, and is Jewish. [https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-ukraine-jews-new-dilemma-1.5326313]
:::::Spartacus International says this in the Intro to [[Reinhard Heydrich]]: "The clear implication is that Heydrich senior was Jewish, and throughout his life Reinhard Heydrich sought to suppress details of his Jewish ancestry. From his mother's gravestone he is said to have erased the suggestive forename Sarah. (1)" You have to read down more than two dozen paragraphs for this: "Hermann Göring issued orders to Reinhard Heydrich to submit a comprehensive plan for "a final solution of the Jewish question." [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 06:36, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

:You seriously don't have a clue what your talking about, only recycling more Western agitprop when the Nazis could not be hidden. The parliament speaker is a Nazi. The head of [[SBU]] is a Nazi. SBU is staffed with Nazis. Prazy Sektor (Right Sector) are Nazis. Pravy Sektor did all the killings of the "[[Heavenly Hundred]]". Pravy Sektor did just did a bunch more atrocities in the [[LNR]]. [https://southfront.org/more-testimonies-of-ukrainian-soldiers-on-mass-killing-of-civilians-in-rubezhnoe-lpr-video/].

:What remains of Avoz right now is about 2,000 holed up in [[Azovstal]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 01:35, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

:It wasn't the Russians who caused all this damage - it was the NATO-trained Nazis. [https://youtu.be/lLLT4sGLPZw] And the survivors are telling their stories. Only Fox news and the rest will never report it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 01:55, April 15, 2022 (EDT)
::I will admit to not following the Ukraine/Russia war closely. Ukraine/Russia are both corrupt regimes with low fertility rates. They are not destined to be great/powerful regimes in the future if you take power to be the full spectrum of power such as economic/cultural/military influence. On the other hand, Russia has nukes/oil/gas so it will continue to have some measure of influence and not be an obscure nation. I know during WWII and afterward, America has had a large focus on Europe, but Europe's influence is going to wane due to their expected aging/shrinking population and high levels of sovereign debt.

::In terms of future influence, these groups appear to have the upper hand due to their demographic growth and hands on potential levers of power: the Chinese Christians; the Latino North Americans/Central Americans/South Americans (immigration); the Latino evangelicals; religious conservatives in America; and the Christians/Muslims/Pentecostals. In 2012, the W. Edwards Deming Institute published a report by the World Future Society which indicated: "Since communism’s collapse, religion has been experiencing resurgence that will likely continue beyond 2100. All the world’s religions are poised to have enormous numeric growth (with the exceptions of tribal religions and Chinese folk religion), as well as geographic spread with the continuation of migration trends. Adherents of the world’s religions—perhaps particularly Muslims, Hindus, and Buddhists—will continue to settle in the formerly Christian and ever-expanding cities of Europe and North America, causing increases of religious pluralism in these areas. Christians and Muslims together will encompass two-thirds of the global population—more than 7 billion individuals. In 2100, the majority of the world’s 11.6 billion residents will be adherents of religious traditions."[http://denninginstitute.com/pjd/PUBS/futurist-sep12.pdf] See: [[Desecularization]] and [[Religion and its projected increase in the 22nd century]] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 02:23, April 15, 2022 (EDT)
:::Yah, that's what all German's said after WWII, too. Yet they were held responsible.

:::[https://youtu.be/5VrKFX7DmQE Mariupol Residents Expose War Crimes].

:::Here's the problem you face: you need to figure out fairly quickly that there's a difference between Ukrainian Nazis (nationalists or whatever label) and the professional military. Just like the difference between the [[SS]] and the [[Wehrmacht]]. That way you can blame Ukrainian Nazis (who number well beyond 800) for all the atrocities, as well as the tax dollars you spent and verbal support you gave to them. There is no way the United States, NATO, the CIA, the [[Deep State]], Republicans, etc., can hide or deny what has happened over the past 8 years. Putin and the Russians have been viewing this for EIGHT YEARS now, and Western media has been more intent on smearing Putin rather than listening to ANYTHING the residents of Donbas and the Russians have said for 8 years.

:::None of this happened overnight in the past two months; the Russians have been preparing to finish the business their grandfathers left unfinished for the past 8 years. And it is still far from over. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 02:20, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

::::The problem, NATO and the United States are trying to hold to their "rules based order" which began after 1945; only the US breaks those same rules in Iraq, Syria, Kosovo, Libya, Afghanistan when it suits them to kill innocent people. The rest of the planet, not blinded by the gay agenda in the US & the West, has had enough of it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 02:27, April 15, 2022 (EDT)
:::::I added some info to my above post. It helps explain why my interest in the Ukrainian/Russian war is low and will probably continue to be low (I also have a full plate of things to do in terms of the things I have planned to do in 2022). Setting aside that there are some cases where there are [[Just War Theory|just wars]], wars are things to be avoided and best to be ended soon. I hope the hostilities between the Russians/Ukrainians ends soon. I may be mistaken, but I don't think the Russians have a stomach to incur large amounts of Russian soldier deaths. So I don't expect the war to last long as far as it being a high intensity conflict. Like I said above, the Russians pulled out of Afghanistan due to domestic complaints as far as Russian soldier deaths in households with a lot of only son households (The Russians have a low fertility rate).[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 02:39, April 15, 2022 (EDT)
::::::This month will determine the future of global politics for the next 30 years. Why do you think globalists are in such a panic over Putin?[[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 03:52, April 15, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::This month is not going to determine the future of global politics for tne next 30 years. Because Putin considers Ukraine potentially joining NATO as being intolerable, he will hang on to the bitter end. Given the history of WWII where Hitler/Germany marched into Russia and caused a huge loss of Russian life, it is not surprising that Russia takes this stance - despite NATO not launching wars of aggression. At the very least Putin will do a face saving consolidation of his territory gains in Eastern Ukraine. And the Russians will back Putin due to nationalism. On the other hand, the Ukrainians will continue to be a thorn in the side of Russia due to their nationalism - probably for months/years. It is my hope that the dust settles as soon as possible. My guess is that Russia will gain the territory with Russian separatists and get Ukraine to agree to be a buffer state that will not join NATO. The sooner this happens, the less bloodshed that will be shed.

:::::::The West never should have dangled the carrot of Ukraine potentially joining NATO - even though Ukraine was far too corrupt to join NATO and was not willing to give up its corrupt politics. Great powers do not have a history of tolerating border states that they see as being threatening and the Cuban missile crisis and Ukraine attest to this matter. And the Ukrainians should have noticed that Putin is not a man of great tolerance and was bound to attack Ukraine if they made overtures of wanting to join NATO. In other words, if you find yourself in a cage with a gorilla, you don't go out of your way to upset that gorilla. At some point political realism needs to trump one's attachment to various political ideologies.

:::::::If this war drags on, not only will many Ukrainian civilians lose their lives, but many Russian soldiers will die as well. In addition, there will be a lot of hunger/starvation in Africa and the Middle East which depends on food/fertilizer from Ukraine/Russia.

:::::::I am not very hopeful due to the fact that bumbling Biden, who should be acting as the leader of the free world, is not respected by America's friends or enemies. If Biden had done his job, America would still have energy independence and the petro state Russia would have been too broke to launch a war on Ukraine. During the Trump years, Russia did not attack Ukraine. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 09:15, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

::::::::Stop embarrassing yourself. You know nothing of the facts and your analytical powers in this area are lacking. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 13:26, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

::::::::If anyone needs "face saving", it's the globalist world order. And you're doing a bang-up job at promoting it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 13:48, April 17, 2022 (EDT)
The liberal globalist world order is dead or close to it. First, it depended on the USA protecting global trade at little/no charge to many other nations. The USA was pivoting away from defending/supporting Europe and Trump launched an America first policy. And Trump demanded that the other NATO nations pony up more money. The USA losing the Afghanistan War chiseled away at the liberal global order. The USA under Bush failed to make the Middle East a bunch of liberal democracies. In addition, we live in multipolar war now. China is stronger, but its heading for big trouble in the future due to its real estate market and its up coming demographic problem. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:46, April 17, 2022 (EDT)
:Well, you can't have it both ways - arguing its dead or near dead and trash Putin for trying to destroy it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 15:06, April 17, 2022 (EDT)
::When did I trash Putin for trying to end the liberal global order? I never did - that's when. For example, earlier I pointed out the liberals failed to protect feminism and the homosexual agenda in Afghanistan. In addition, I cited University of Chicago John Mearsheimer of the realism school when it came to the end of liberal, global hegemy and baiting Russia into the Russia/Ukraine conflict.

::Just because I refuse to be a Putin apologist and have a realistic view of Putin (autocratic kleptocrat), doesn't make me an apologist for the liberal, global world order.

::Realistically, the USA is fairly hard wired into being anti-Rusky post Cold War. It was fairly inevitable that the USA have a lot of Russian detractors - especially since Putin is an autocratic kleptocrat. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:33, April 17, 2022 (EDT)
::::Your quoting Mearsheimer is totally off-base. Nowhere does Mearsheimer attempt to [[demonize]] Putin, as you attempted to do by putting words in his mouth on MPR. Your shilling for globalists and the Deep State.

::::In Mearsheimer's most recent video, posted about 5 days ago, he echoes exactly what I'm saying - that US policy is wrongheaded, that the US needs to focus on China and that the U.S. NEEDS Putin and Russia in that conflict with China. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 15:08, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

:::As early as 2017, Bloomberg declared the liberal global order dead.[https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2017-09-27/america-s-new-world-order-is-officially-dead]

:::The seeds of the decline of the West were seeded in the 1960s. The pill and prosperity led to decadence and demographic decline in the West. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:39, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

::::There you go again, spewing Deep State and Clintonite ("hardwired") talking points, and being an apologist for the globalist world order. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 15:39, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

::::If you can't say anything positive about Vladimir Putin, then just shut up. Don't keep repeating Trump-Russia-Hillary Clinton-Jake Sullivan-Joe Biden talking points. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 15:43, April 17, 2022 (EDT)
RobS, you are the proverbial general fighting the last war. You are like the Japanese soldiers in remote islands who didn't know that WWII was over. The liberal global world over is dead and buried. Even the leftists in China are against feminism/homosexuality now due to the Chinese heading down the road of demographic decline. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:45, April 17, 2022 (EDT)
:A quick note: Given China's Confucian past, it was never going to fully embrace feminism ("Deeply rooted in Chinese tradition and culture is the notion that male children are more desirable because they possess the capability to care for the elderly, work toilsome jobs, and perform critical ancestral practices. Female infanticide, where a family aborts a pregnancy of a female child to have a (first-born) male child, is connected with the assertions of practitioners, based on Confucian texts.").[https://www.schwarzmanscholars.org/events-and-news/confucianism-feminism-conflict-new-understanding-necessary/] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:50, April 17, 2022 (EDT)
::There are plenty of politically right leaning, conservative pundits who are critics of Putin (Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, etc.). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:54, April 17, 2022 (EDT)
:::In addition, I endeavor not to wear political blinders and try to be objective. In the past, I certainly have noted that the Russians/Putin being anti-homosexuality was a failure of liberal hegenemy in the world. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:00, April 17, 2022 (EDT)
::::Your obfuscation is nonsense. Alluding to China, atheism, or the demographic prospects of Nigeria is off topic. Admit you made a mistake in spewing liberal anti-Russian hate speech, and move on. Stop defending the globalist world order. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 16:03, April 17, 2022 (EDT)
I am not anti-Russian. A few years back, I met a semi-homeless Russian-American older lady at work and let her be a guests because I felt sorry her. She was staying at lesbian couple's house temporarily and very unhappy about her plight and I felt sorry for her. I've also cited some of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's work at Conservapedia (see: [[Atheism and Mass Murder]]). And I have always been a fan of various Russian authors (Tolstoy, Chekhov). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:20, April 17, 2022 (EDT)
:In addition, I listen to Russian Orthodox music and link to it at Conservapedia.[https://www.conservapedia.com/User:Conservative/Christian_songs_from_around_the_world#Orthodox_Songs]. I also listen to and link to Russian/Slavic music at Conservapedia.[https://www.conservapedia.com/User:Conservative/Music_from_around_the_world#Russian_and_Slavic_Music] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:24, April 17, 2022 (EDT)
::Well that's good. What do you think of contemporary Russian popular music, [https://youtu.be/7ZfGx8Uxmdg like this one?] Tell me, do you think she's looking for Ukrainian Nazis or fascist NATO fighters? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 16:48, April 17, 2022 (EDT)
:::I think much of the world is in decline in a lot of ways so its bound to effect music, art, etc. There is one good thing happening. Perhaps with the developed Western world, Russia and China facing aging populations, subreplacement fertility levels and more obesity, there will be less war. It harder to fight when you have to get around with a cane or wheelchair or when you are 50-75 pounds overweight. The U.S. is finding [https://sgp.fas.org/crs/natsec/IF11708.pdf it harder] to recruit soldiers post overweight America. In 2019, it was reported that 36.0% of Russian adults have obesity. Must be all that vodka drinking. No wonder why Russia is finding it hard to keep Russian army troop levels high and is [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/25/us/politics/russian-mercenaries-ukraine-wagner-group.html bringing in mercanaries]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:30, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

::::Can't you see what's going on? The Poles, Czechs, Romanians, Finns, etc. are supplying their old junk to Ukraine, not because they are afraid of Putin or Russia, but because they are given, free of charge courtesy of you and me the taxpayer and the military industrial complex, free NATO upgraded replacement equipment. The rest is propaganda. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 18:29, April 17, 2022 (EDT)
:::::If Putin were smarter, he would have amassed all those troops on the Russian border and then negotiated from a position of strength. Before this war on Ukraine, many people thought Putin was some kind of brilliant, 3D chess, geopolitical strategist. But now, it looks like he was just an opportunist who took advantage of a corrupt Ukraine for awhile and complacent Europeans who were in decline.

:::::The Italians have a saying that a fish rots from the head down. Putin is a corrupt kleptocrat and it turns out his military officers were corrupt thieves too and that hurt Russian military readiness in terms of how equiptment was kept up, etc. So the Russian army has terrible logistics. The Russian Army is no match for NATO/US forces. Hopefully, the war does not escalate and/or turn nuclear. The sooner the war ends, the better it will be for Russia/Ukraine/Europe. Military spending causes needless deaths and cuts into domestic spending. Also, in WWII and post WWII wars, many civilians die in war.

:::::It is rich that the West who burnt Dresden/Hiroshima to a crisp, is calling Russians war criminals due to their shelling of cities. The West can't have it both ways when it comes to Ukrainian civilians. Out of one side of their mouth, the West brags that Ukrainian civilians are taking out Russian soldiers and military hardware, but out of the other side of their mouth they are decrying the shelling of Ukrainian cities. It is a sad truth that in modern war, there are a lot of civilian casualties/injuries.

:::::Unfortunately, the Japanese were so militaristic/fanatical in WWII, that the nuclear bombing of Japan may have been necessary, but I have my doubts. I cite: "Nuclear weapons shocked Japan into surrendering at the end of World War II—except they didn't. Japan surrendered because the Soviet Union entered the war. Japanese leaders said the bomb forced them to surrender because it was less embarrassing to say they had been defeated by a miracle weapon."[https://www.carnegiecouncil.org/education/008/expertclips/010#:~:text=Nuclear%20weapons%20shocked%20Japan%20into,defeated%20by%20a%20miracle%20weapon.] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:53, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

::::::Your peeing in the wind again, and showing you haven't a clue what you're talking about. If I were you, I'd just stop mentioning the name "Putin". Maybe you can say "Russia" or "vodka" or whatever other words to make yourself look informed, but like most Americans and MSM, you need to get off this horse. It's a losser. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 18:58, April 17, 2022 (EDT)
I don't feel sorry for Putin who is probably the world's richest man via his kleptocracy and very foolish when it came to launching this war. Post Russia/Afghanistan War, he should have known that the USA/West would supply Ukraine with very effective military hardware like Javelin/Stinger missiles. Some people never learn. Sandal clad Afghanis took down Russian airplanes/helicopters with USA supplied Stinger missiles during the Russia/Afghani War. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:13, April 17, 2022 (EDT)
:As far as anti-Russian sentiments being widespead in the USA post the Cold War, it takes time for national psyches to heal. The Chinese are still angry at Japan/West for their "century of humiliation". And during the 1970s when the Japanese were heavily competing against the USA in automobile sales, anti-Japanese sentiments were widespread in the USA. During a 2006 strike at a local Japanese factory in the USA, the workers posted inflamatory material on walls that made references to Hiroshima.

:While I am a big believer in forgiveness and believe that the USA acted very graciously towards Germany/Japan post WWII, there is often lingering resentments amoung some people in societies after a war. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:29, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

::Where's [[Will Smith]] when you need him? "Get that word out of your mouth!" [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 19:42, April 17, 2022 (EDT)
::"Hi! I'm an idiot! I love spewing globalist talking points!" You sound like ConwayIII. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 19:46, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

::Even though this is a violation of the Geneva Convention, it is [https://youtu.be/Jg_4MNn766A still worth looking at to understand the mindset of Russians living in Ukraine.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 22:29, April 17, 2022 (EDT)
:::Trans: ''We loved Ukraine, we lived in Ukraine. We stood under this flag, and now we are ashamed. Ashamed that you brought it to such an extent. We don't hate you Ukrainians, we don't hate your flag and your customs, but you're used to kneeling in front of Europe, in front of America.''
:::Russians are an incredibly patient people. I've never seen or met people of a collective or ethnic group with patience seemingly built into their DNA. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 22:37, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

::Stop and think for a moment: your "Putin bad" narratives are no different than "Orange man bad", and originate from exactly the same sources. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 18:09, April 18, 2022 (EDT)

:Interesting comment from ''View from Moscow'':
::''Turning a blind eye to the neo-Nazi brigades in the Ukraine emboldens their compatriots in the West to organize similarly. The Fascist problem will only get bigger, and before you know it right wing protestors in Europe will be brandishing weapons. They will be led by the battle hardened Nazis that escape Ukraine. In the US, brother groups will up their Fascist tactics and come to DC on Jan. 6, 2024 armed to get the job done this time. The West failed to stop the Fascist movement before WW2. Will they do it again? Yes. Look at Ukraine’s Azov division equipped with the finest Western arms.'' [https://freepress.substack.com/p/what-russians-are-thinking-]
:And that really ain't half the story, given how many Javelins & NLAWS have been stolen and are on the blackmarket right now. As one commentator put it: "I wouldn't want to be Scholtz or Macron, riding in a car in Berlin or Paris anytime in coiming years." [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]] 00:14, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

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