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::This debate is unpleasant and getting us no where. However, I refute your claim that my comments are based on a liberal ideology. No, they are based on my personal experience of life, and of the medical profession, as both a father and as a patient. I have had several major surgeries. I also personally learnt as a school kid  the importance of isolation in containing a highly contagious disease. Furthermore I have listened to very many interviews with front line doctors, nurses and scientist, over the last two years. This doesn't mean that I cannot at times be sceptical and realize that we live in an imperfect world. I certainly would be dead, or a partial blind cripple without the achievements of modern medicine and science. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]], I do realize that there is the occasional doctor or nurse who may agree with you. --[[User:Jackin the box|Jackin the box]] ([[User talk:Jackin the box|talk]]) 12:24, April 23, 2022 (EDT)
 
::This debate is unpleasant and getting us no where. However, I refute your claim that my comments are based on a liberal ideology. No, they are based on my personal experience of life, and of the medical profession, as both a father and as a patient. I have had several major surgeries. I also personally learnt as a school kid  the importance of isolation in containing a highly contagious disease. Furthermore I have listened to very many interviews with front line doctors, nurses and scientist, over the last two years. This doesn't mean that I cannot at times be sceptical and realize that we live in an imperfect world. I certainly would be dead, or a partial blind cripple without the achievements of modern medicine and science. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]], I do realize that there is the occasional doctor or nurse who may agree with you. --[[User:Jackin the box|Jackin the box]] ([[User talk:Jackin the box|talk]]) 12:24, April 23, 2022 (EDT)
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:::You "refute" that your comments are based on liberal ideology because you say they're "refuted"?  No dice.  You're still in denial about the "vaccines" and still trying to make excuses (including making claims about interviews with quacks and pseudo-scientists who sold out to Big Pharma and Bill Gates) to justify your push of the "vaccines".  I'm not buying it and neither are more and more people who are realizing the truth.  [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 17:12, April 23, 2022 (EDT)
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