| | The only thing I can recall that Katzenberg did that was a great move (or at least proved to be so) was when he hired Howard Ashman to be The Little Mermaid’s lyricist. Although speaking of that, he gave it the red light due to being similar to Splash, but when he did give it the green light, he wanted to cut Part of Your World, despite John Musker, Ron Clements, Alan Menken, and Howard Ashman all saying it’s a bad idea. Even with Ashman threatening to quit. Katzenberg didn’t listen to any of them, but Glen Keane convinced him to let him finish animating the sequence, and screen it to a more mature audience. Of course, Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin were big hits, but the road to that was very bumpy considering that he rejected two drafts for Beauty and the Beast, and forced the Aladdin team to write a completely new story in eight days. Everyone take about his work on the Renaissance, but fewer talk about his first impression with the animation department by cutting over 10 minutes of The Black Cauldron because it was too dark and scary, although he wanted Woody to be a psychopath in Toy Story. As for the female protagonist, you’re right in that regard. After all, I liked Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs when I was little, and I enjoyed Tangled when I saw it in theaters. Overall, you’re free to enjoy The Little Mermaid, and like I said, it’s a guilty pleasure of mine. I’m sure Disney will butcher it in the upcoming live-action remake. Everyone’s taking about black Ariel, but are the sea creatures going to be photorealistic like in The Lion King? If so, “Under the Sea” will be terrifying. I’m 65% sure “Kiss the Girl” will be cut. [[User:Admiral_Farmer|Admiral_Farmer]] ([[User talk:Admiral_Farmer|talk]]) 20:43, June 28, 2022 (EDT) | | The only thing I can recall that Katzenberg did that was a great move (or at least proved to be so) was when he hired Howard Ashman to be The Little Mermaid’s lyricist. Although speaking of that, he gave it the red light due to being similar to Splash, but when he did give it the green light, he wanted to cut Part of Your World, despite John Musker, Ron Clements, Alan Menken, and Howard Ashman all saying it’s a bad idea. Even with Ashman threatening to quit. Katzenberg didn’t listen to any of them, but Glen Keane convinced him to let him finish animating the sequence, and screen it to a more mature audience. Of course, Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin were big hits, but the road to that was very bumpy considering that he rejected two drafts for Beauty and the Beast, and forced the Aladdin team to write a completely new story in eight days. Everyone take about his work on the Renaissance, but fewer talk about his first impression with the animation department by cutting over 10 minutes of The Black Cauldron because it was too dark and scary, although he wanted Woody to be a psychopath in Toy Story. As for the female protagonist, you’re right in that regard. After all, I liked Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs when I was little, and I enjoyed Tangled when I saw it in theaters. Overall, you’re free to enjoy The Little Mermaid, and like I said, it’s a guilty pleasure of mine. I’m sure Disney will butcher it in the upcoming live-action remake. Everyone’s taking about black Ariel, but are the sea creatures going to be photorealistic like in The Lion King? If so, “Under the Sea” will be terrifying. I’m 65% sure “Kiss the Girl” will be cut. [[User:Admiral_Farmer|Admiral_Farmer]] ([[User talk:Admiral_Farmer|talk]]) 20:43, June 28, 2022 (EDT) |
| | + | :Personally, I never understood why they insisted on the "photorealistic" aspect for the TLK remake. Wouldn't it have made more sense to just use real animals and have people voice the animals in the background, sort of like the Homeward Bound movies? And quite frankly, if they do use photorealism for the fauna, they seem to be forgetting kids aren't exactly likely to be all that fond of it. Heck, Raiders of the Lost Ark outright SCARRED me regarding my views of God. Personally, I also think the Beauty and the Beast rendition he chose, while not dark per-se, was also downright cynical, possibly to the level of Toy Story's Black Friday reel, including having the village up and out cheer the villain openly boasting with his toady trying to blackmail a woman to force marriage. Heck, if anything, I'd argue Beauty and the Beast was arguably even MORE cynical in that sense than Black Friday. At least Black Friday had the toys be rightfully disgusted with Woody after he confirms their suspicions that he deliberately tossed Buzz out the window. And that's not even getting how the movie arguably wrecks Beast's development in the ending by having him let Gaston and the villagers try to at a bare minimum loot the castle, possibly KILL the inhabitants when they inevitably discover they are alive, not to mention was initially willing to just up and out let Gaston kill him without a fight. Such behavior was something not even pre-redemption Beast would have done (as much of a massive jerk he was in the beginning of the movie, you at least got the sense he was perfectly willing to protect his servants and that his motivation for breaking the spell was AS much for restoring his servants human form as it was for himself). I'm wondering why the heck Richard Purdum's rendition would have been considered "dark." It's as dark as Snow White to be honest (and that movie was surprisingly dark when you get right down to it, since attempted infanticide is a major part of the film. If kids could handle that film back then, most kids would handle Purdum's take). Though at least Purdum had that as an excuse for being cut. Cox had it even WORSE if you ask me, since he never even had a reason provided for why it was cut beyond "no one bats a thousand" (and considering Eisner, back when he actually DID attempt to respect Disney's legacy, was the one who personally requested for Cox to write a full story treatment before Katzenberg flat out rejected it, I wouldn't even be surprised if Katzenberg did that behind Eisner's back). Heck, I'd even go so far as to state that it was BECAUSE of Katzenberg ultimately that Disney became left-wing (he's probably the most political animal out there other than maybe Iger, one who willingly chooses political statements over ALL else). Come to think of it, looking at BATB's budget, it's probably better off being a DTV film. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 07:22, June 29, 2022 (EDT) |