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::::I agree. Russian society/culture is not going to radically change after Putin loses power. And I never believed in the Russian-collusion hoax. And I do know that the CIA/NGOs can instigate and/or help cause revolutions such as the Orange Revolution. At the same time, historical research indicates that unmet societal expectations/instability (social/economic instablity) are the fuel of revolutions. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:23, October 7, 2022 (EDT)
::::I agree. Russian society/culture is not going to radically change after Putin loses power. And I never believed in the Russian-collusion hoax. And I do know that the CIA/NGOs can instigate and/or help cause revolutions such as the Orange Revolution. At the same time, historical research indicates that unmet societal expectations/instability (social/economic instablity) are the fuel of revolutions. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:23, October 7, 2022 (EDT)
:::::The CIA is fomenting the unrest in Teheran right now, in Yerevan, in Thailand, in Belarus, and even in open, free, democratic Russia itself among other places. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 19:43, October 7, 2022 (EDT)
:::::The CIA is fomenting the unrest in Teheran right now, in Yerevan, in Thailand, in Belarus, and even in open, free, democratic Russia itself among other places. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 19:43, October 7, 2022 (EDT)
:::::Since the end of the Cold War, communism moved Westward. It always had a base in the West. The social unrest in the United States in the 1960s was Kremlin directed. Russia today has no organized global reach that it had with Communist parties all over the world that it had prior to 1991. The West through its various NGOs and other vehicles, including a vast media/propaganda apparatus, does have such a reach. And it is dominated by the same nihilistic Leftist ideology that dominated the Soviet Union and Comintern, using much the same revolutionary organizational techniques. The CIA owes much to the KGB, which essentially was its schoolmaster. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 19:52, October 7, 2022 (EDT)
:::::Since the end of the Cold War, communism moved Westward. It always had a base in the West. The social unrest in the United States in the 1960s was Kremlin directed. Russia today has no organized global reach with Communist parties all over the world that it had prior to 1991. The West through its various NGOs and other vehicles, including a vast media/propaganda apparatus, does have such a reach. And it is dominated by the same nihilistic Leftist ideology that dominated the Soviet Union and Comintern, using much the same revolutionary organizational techniques. The CIA owes much to the KGB, which essentially was its schoolmaster. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 19:52, October 7, 2022 (EDT)
:::::Like the USSR did during its whole existence, the CIA looks for hot spots of social unrest (what you describe above as "unmet societal expectations/instability") to exploit. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 19:57, October 7, 2022 (EDT)
:::::Like the USSR did during its whole existence, the CIA looks for hot spots of social unrest (what you describe above as "unmet societal expectations/instability") to exploit. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 19:57, October 7, 2022 (EDT)
::::::<aside>by "nihilistic Leftist ideology" I am not talking about anti-capitalist ideology. I am referring to undemocratic totalitarian rule by a governing elite. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 20:05, October 7, 2022 (EDT)
::::::<aside>by "nihilistic Leftist ideology" I am not talking about anti-capitalist ideology. I am referring to undemocratic totalitarian rule by a governing elite. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 20:05, October 7, 2022 (EDT)
::::::Knocking down the border checkpoints between Russia and Donbas is fraught with problems and risks; it is easier for a Ukrainian terrorist now to infiltrate into Russia. And NATO has made it clear, with its US funding, that terrorism, sabotage, and assassination are on the table as a "legitimate" weapon of war. Just wait for the reprisals in what appears to be a decades long Cold War unfolding. As I said earlier, the CIA is a student of the KGB. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 20:21, October 7, 2022 (EDT)
::::::Knocking down the border checkpoints between Russia and Donbas is fraught with problems and risks; it is easier for a Ukrainian terrorist now to infiltrate into Russia. And NATO has made it clear, with its US funding, that terrorism, sabotage, and assassination are on the table as a "legitimate" weapon of war. Just wait for the reprisals in what appears to be a decades long Cold War unfolding. As I said earlier, the CIA is a student of the KGB. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]]</sup> 20:21, October 7, 2022 (EDT)