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::::::We've been over this before: the eternal torment is living outside the love of God. If you think it's such a good option, go ahead and chose it. Don't repent. Live in sin, under the law. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 07:15, May 10, 2023 (EDT)
::::::We've been over this before: the eternal torment is living outside the love of God. If you think it's such a good option, go ahead and chose it. Don't repent. Live in sin, under the law. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 07:15, May 10, 2023 (EDT)
:::::::Given your continuous unrepentant vicious slanders against me in the past few months, it would appear that ''you'' qualify most for "likely under the law." Anyways... yes, we've been over this before: if you believe in eternal torment, you believe in Mithriast fantasies rather than the biblical truth that's so plain in the Scriptures. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>(Matthew 26:52)</sup>]]''''' Wednesday, 10:33, May 10, 2023 (EDT)
:::::::Given your continuous unrepentant vicious slanders against me in the past few months, it would appear that ''you'' qualify most for "likely under the law." Anyways... yes, we've been over this before: if you believe in eternal torment, you believe in Mithriast fantasies rather than the biblical truth that's so plain in the Scriptures. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>(Matthew 26:52)</sup>]]''''' Wednesday, 10:33, May 10, 2023 (EDT)
::::::::''by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned''
:::::::By my words I am under grace, not under law; by your words ye are under law.
::::::::''restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.''
:::::::Thank God it's only advice and not a command. I believe in tuff love. I'm like the Good Samaritan and not the Pharisee who just passed by and didn't want to get involved. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 15:05, May 10, 2023 (EDT)
No, I don't agree. That many will remain unbelievers even after Lazarus (not to mention Christ) rises from the dead is true, but Christ had no need to tell us what would in fact be an elaborate deception (on your view) to make that point. The only reason He tells us that Souls exist and go to Heaven or Hell is because they in fact do. Why have you adopted the SDA view when there's a wealth of Biblical Evidence against it? You are just beginning to read the Word of God. I would suggest studying seriously for at least another 5 to 10 years (perhaps at Seminary level, like I have) before coming to firm conclusions. I've shown many passages that show the departed are alive and at rest in Heaven, not "dead" and unconscious. "now he is comforted and you are tormented" (Luk 16:25).
No, I don't agree. That many will remain unbelievers even after Lazarus (not to mention Christ) rises from the dead is true, but Christ had no need to tell us what would in fact be an elaborate deception (on your view) to make that point. The only reason He tells us that Souls exist and go to Heaven or Hell is because they in fact do. Why have you adopted the SDA view when there's a wealth of Biblical Evidence against it? You are just beginning to read the Word of God. I would suggest studying seriously for at least another 5 to 10 years (perhaps at Seminary level, like I have) before coming to firm conclusions. I've shown many passages that show the departed are alive and at rest in Heaven, not "dead" and unconscious. "now he is comforted and you are tormented" (Luk 16:25).