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::::::Hey, I'm not saying t hat's a fault or anything - but I'm sure you must be aware of it. You are untrusting of other people, and make yourself, without realizing it, untrustworthy by other people. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 23:56, June 27, 2023 (EDT)
 
::::::Hey, I'm not saying t hat's a fault or anything - but I'm sure you must be aware of it. You are untrusting of other people, and make yourself, without realizing it, untrustworthy by other people. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 23:56, June 27, 2023 (EDT)
 
You did call me a Nazi. You do act rude by covering up others text with a template when they are engaging in civil debate. In addition, you think there is no price to being rude to others and breaking civility guidelines. There is often a price to being rude. For example, I was going to pay for the login problem to be fixed. You can forget about that now. Why would I pay for the login problem when the wiki is plagued by the presence of a very uncivil admin? Of course, I wouldn't ever do that.  In addition, having an uncivil atmosphere is a big turn-off to new editors - even if they work their way through the login issue. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:21, June 28, 2023 (EDT)
 
You did call me a Nazi. You do act rude by covering up others text with a template when they are engaging in civil debate. In addition, you think there is no price to being rude to others and breaking civility guidelines. There is often a price to being rude. For example, I was going to pay for the login problem to be fixed. You can forget about that now. Why would I pay for the login problem when the wiki is plagued by the presence of a very uncivil admin? Of course, I wouldn't ever do that.  In addition, having an uncivil atmosphere is a big turn-off to new editors - even if they work their way through the login issue. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:21, June 28, 2023 (EDT)
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:You screwed up BIG TIME edit warring (with another Admin) on Talk/MPR. It ain't the first time. That Deletion key needs to be taken away from you. You routinely abuse it, and no one trusts talking to you casue you always try to cover your tracks when you screw up.
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:People generally understand when other people make mistakes. But you hold this facade that you can always delete yours and anyone else's discussions that may hold you in a bad light. It is insulting to people, to think they are that stupid they cannot see that. Hence no one wants to discuss anything with you, cause they can't trust you. If you'd simply act human, and apologize when in error, people generally are forgiving. But you expect everyone to lie to themselves as you do, that User:Con can't ever make a mistake. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 21:51, June 27, 2023 (EDT)
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:As to this portion: "discussions that may hold you in a bad light", simple solution: Don't get involved in stupid discussions, especially those you know little about. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 21:58, June 27, 2023 (EDT)
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:Me personally, occasionally I will venture into discussions I know little or nothing ab out - to listen and learn and ask questions. I concede they probably know more and I can learn from them. Not you. You enter to tell everybody they are wrong seemingly to bust up the conversation. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 00:20, June 28, 2023 (EDT)
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::So what do you do? You go Google to teach yourself a crash course with the first couple results that come up and emerge as an expert - usually arguing outdated crap that people familiar with the subject can easily see what you are doing. Then you won't back down - cause you accomplished what you intended to do - sow division and make enemies.  Then you go onto write Essays about your enemies' excessive intake of carbohydrates or something, therefore they must be Satanic atheists and going to hell, etc.
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::Sorry to inform you, but as an independent observer for years, I have watched this insanity. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]</sup> 00:29, June 28, 2023 (EDT)
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