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:Yes, I'm not familiar with this book, but as nearly as I can tell by references to it, it's about ''post''-World-War-II planning in ''England.'' And as Boomcoach notes, "new" refers to a new ''edition'' of an earlier book. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 11:21, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
:Yes, I'm not familiar with this book, but as nearly as I can tell by references to it, it's about ''post''-World-War-II planning in ''England.'' And as Boomcoach notes, "new" refers to a new ''edition'' of an earlier book. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 11:21, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
*''The New Ordeal by Planning'', John Jewkes, Macmillan and Co., Ltd., 1968. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 11:07, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
::Which I'm not familiar with, but, as nearly as I can tell, is about ''post'' World War II planning in ''England?'' Or have I got that wrong? Continue at [[Talk:New Ordeal]]... [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 11:13, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
:Also known as "Ordeal by Planning",this essay was about econ planning in the '''UK''', not the U.S., and while, given his arguments, he prob would not have supported the New Deal, he didn't call it the New Ordeal.
::''John Jewkes (1902 - 1988) is best known for his book Ordeal by Planning which he wrote in 1946 in an attempt to show that the wartime planning system, which many people wished to maintain and develop in the post-war world, would condemn the United Kingdom to poverty and failure. If Friedrich von Hayek in The Road to Serfdom provided a more celebrated philosophical treatise, it was Jewkes who produced a more down to earth and practically convincing case against central planning.'' http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=John_Jewkes. [[User:Frederick|Frederick]] 11:24, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
:::You have to see Jewkes earlier 1948 book, ''Ordeal by Planning'', and Hayek's 1945 work, ''Road to Serfdom''. It is essentially critique of [[Keynesian]] economic theory. Some of James Burnham's 1941 ''Managerial Revolution'' can also probably fit in here. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 11:22, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
:I agree that Jewkes seems to critique Keynesian economics. That has NOTHING TO DO WITH the question at hand, namely '''where did the phrase "New Ordeal" come from?'''[[User:Frederick|Frederick]] 11:24, 12 June 2007 (EDT)