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→Breaking: Kupiansk front collapses
:::There is nothing standing between them and Kharkov. But they'll probably break-off a large contingent south to help out at Krasny-Limon first and north to secure the border - once they finish up work at Kupiansk.
:::There is nothing standing between them and Kharkov. But they'll probably break-off a large contingent south to help out at Krasny-Limon first and north to secure the border - once they finish up work at Kupiansk.
:::Besides, Odessa is more important to secure than Kharkov right now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 21:59, August 10, 2023 (EDT)
:::Besides, Odessa is more important to secure than Kharkov right now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 21:59, August 10, 2023 (EDT)
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:::Conway, I'd be interested in hearing your assessment of what remains of Ukrainian fighters; as I understand, Ukraine only has about 40,000 NATO trained/equipped troops remaining. The rest, about 160,000, are untrained/unexperienced conscripts pressed into service with an average age over 37 (many in their 50s). There is talk of another mobilization, but there's nobody left to press into service. Fully 90% of all males (say over the age of 15) will have served before the war is over. What remains have long left the country and likely will never return. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 15:19, August 11, 2023 (EDT)
:::Conway, I'd be interested in hearing your assessment of what remains of Ukrainian fighters; as I understand, Ukraine only has about 40,000 NATO trained/equipped troops remaining. The rest, about 160,000, are untrained/unexperienced conscripts pressed into service with an average age over 37 (many in their 50s). There is talk of another mobilization, but there's nobody left to press into service. Fully 90% of all males (say over the age of 15) will have served before the war is over. What remains have long left the country and likely will never return. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 15:19, August 11, 2023 (EDT)