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:Woodrow Wilson: [https://www.heritage.org/political-process/report/the-birth-the-administrative-state-where-it-came-and-what-it-means-limited "Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.”] - At that time, we can pretty much say it existed outside government, in media and banking, etc. it was Wilson who partnered and brought it inside government, creation of the Fed, war propaganda, the debt ceiling Act, the Espionage Act, etc.
 
:Woodrow Wilson: [https://www.heritage.org/political-process/report/the-birth-the-administrative-state-where-it-came-and-what-it-means-limited "Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.”] - At that time, we can pretty much say it existed outside government, in media and banking, etc. it was Wilson who partnered and brought it inside government, creation of the Fed, war propaganda, the debt ceiling Act, the Espionage Act, etc.
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:As to WWII, I don't really want to get into most of it now, but if you compare the quote of Adolf Hitler (various translation) of, "If international Jewish finance plunges the nations once more into a world war, it will be the end of the Jewish race in Europe", or words to that effect, and compare it with the activities of [[Harry Dexter White]], you come up with some interesting leads. I'm not saying it's true, I'm saying Hitler believed it was true, and White worked for the [[Comintern]] in the US Treasury Department. So whatever "deep state" existed in those days was closely connected to the Comintern and KGB.
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:As to WWII, I don't really want to get into most of it now, but if you compare the quote of Adolf Hitler (various translation) of, "If international Jewish finance plunges the nations once more into a world war, it will be the end of the Jewish race in Europe", or words to that effect, and look at the career of [[Harry Dexter White]], you come up with some interesting leads. I'm not saying it's true, I'm saying Hitler believed it was true, and White worked for the [[Comintern]] in the US Treasury Department. So whatever "deep state" existed in those days was closely connected to the Comintern and KGB.
    
:As to Korea, you need some background understanding on both world wars, and we don't have the time or space here right now to get into it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:35, August 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
:As to Korea, you need some background understanding on both world wars, and we don't have the time or space here right now to get into it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:35, August 21, 2023 (EDT)
    
:With [[McCarthyism]], KGB influence and control of the "deep state" that existed under FDR & Truman was booted out, and an extreme reaction set in against Soviet communism, culminating in the assassination of JFK & Vietnam war (largely led by WWII & Korean war veterans' in the deep state who felt betrayed for the sacrifices they made in those two wars). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:42, August 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
:With [[McCarthyism]], KGB influence and control of the "deep state" that existed under FDR & Truman was booted out, and an extreme reaction set in against Soviet communism, culminating in the assassination of JFK & Vietnam war (largely led by WWII & Korean war veterans' in the deep state who felt betrayed for the sacrifices they made in those two wars). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:42, August 21, 2023 (EDT)
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