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:IOWs, when looking at the deep state, it's not so much an organized institution; rather look at the attitudes, prejudices, and experiences of that generation of the people in power, inside and outside of government at that moment in time. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 22:50, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

:IOWs, when looking at the deep state, it's not so much an organized institution; rather look at the attitudes, prejudices, and experiences of that generation of the people in power, inside and outside of government at that moment in time. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 22:50, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

::Continuing: "the attitudes, prejudices, and experiences of that generation..."; in WWI we could say it was what they called "the [[Illuminati]]' carried through Freemasons, etc. (on an international plane, [[Bolsheviks]] could be included); in the interwar period it's the [[Comintern]]; in the United States post-WWII it's the [[CIA]] and its numerous fronts, related agencies, and international alliances (MI6, etc,; CIA, and even [[NATO]] were created and set basically with the encouragement of MI6 because the 'attitude, prejudices, and experiences' of the American people and its Congress historically was resistant to secret organizations. In the immediate postwar period MI6 and their American allies felt something was needed to counter the KGB, whose forerunners had an impressive track record of infiltrating and taking over the [[Russian Empire]], destroying the [[Weimar Republic]] and [[Nazi Germany]], and had expanded its tentacles in to the American government).  

::Continuing: "the attitudes, prejudices, and experiences of that generation..."; in WWI we could say it was what they called "the [[Illuminati]]' carried through Freemasons, etc. (on an international plane, [[Bolsheviks]] could be included); in the interwar period it's the [[Comintern]]; in the United States post-WWII it's the [[CIA]] and its numerous fronts, related agencies, and international alliances (MI6, etc,; CIA, and even [[NATO]] were created and set up basically with the encouragement of MI6 because the 'attitude, prejudices, and experiences' of the American people and its Congress historically was resistant to secret organizations. In the immediate postwar period MI6 and their American allies felt something was needed to counter the KGB, whose forerunners had an impressive track record of infiltrating and taking over the [[Russian Empire]], destroying the [[Weimar Republic]] and [[Nazi Germany]], and had expanded its tentacles in to the American government).  

::After a thorough purging of the American government of the American government (look at the careers of [[Hiss]], [[Oppenheimer]], etc) a new generation of American leaders came to power who were veterans of these wars. Contrary to the popular histories of those wars, many veterans who risked their lives and fought those wars for "freedom, democracy", etc. felt they had been betrayed and the effort was for nothing (with the rise of Communist bloc in [[Eastern Europe]] and [[China]]). Among this generation of new leaders is Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, and John Kennedy, who share close wartime experiences. All served in the Navy in the South Pacific, and both Nixon and McCarthy worked in Naval Intelligence. Kennedy famously opposed secret organizations and spoke openly about it. And they killed him.

::After a thorough purging of the American government of the American government (look at the careers of [[Hiss]], [[Oppenheimer]], etc) a new generation of American leaders came to power who were veterans of these wars. Contrary to the popular histories of those wars, many veterans who risked their lives and fought those wars for "freedom, democracy", etc. felt they had been betrayed and the effort was for nothing (with the rise of Communist bloc in [[Eastern Europe]] and [[China]]). Among this generation of new leaders is Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, and John Kennedy, who share close wartime experiences. All served in the Navy in the South Pacific, and both Nixon and McCarthy worked in Naval Intelligence. Kennedy famously opposed secret organizations and spoke openly about it. And they killed him.

::Fast forward to the post-Cold War (post-[[Papa Bush]]) Clinton era. The baby boomer spoiled brats and incompetents who grew up on sex, drugs, rock roll and were brainwashed by KGB propaganda during the [[Vietnam war]] now took over leadership and control of the deep state. It wasn't suddenly, but it did occur over the next 20 years. America's "national security apparatus", which had been in the hands of conservative Republicans since Eisenhower, by the time of the [[Patriot Act]] and Obama was firmly in the hands of the commie left subversive Democrats, the children of the targets of [[COINTELPRO]]. It's now payback time. And this generation of deep staters aren't focused on foreign influence. They are focused on their perceived domestic enemies. More later. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 06:00, August 22, 2023 (EDT)

::Fast forward to the post-Cold War (post-[[Papa Bush]]) Clinton era. The baby boomer spoiled brats and incompetents who grew up on sex, drugs, rock roll and were brainwashed by KGB propaganda during the [[Vietnam war]] now took over leadership and control of the deep state. It wasn't suddenly, but it did occur over the next 20 years. America's "national security apparatus", which had been in the hands of conservative Republicans since Eisenhower, by the time of the [[Patriot Act]] and Obama was firmly in the hands of the commie left subversive Democrats, the children of the targets of [[COINTELPRO]]. It's now payback time. And this generation of deep staters aren't focused on foreign influence. They are focused on their perceived domestic enemies. More later. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]} 06:00, August 22, 2023 (EDT)