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::After a thorough purging of the American government (look at the careers of [[Hiss]], [[Oppenheimer]], etc) a new generation of American leaders came to power who were veterans of these wars. Contrary to the popular histories of those wars, many veterans who risked their lives and fought those wars for "freedom, democracy", etc. felt they had been betrayed and the effort was for nothing (with the rise of Communist bloc in [[Eastern Europe]] and [[China]]). Among this generation of new leaders is Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, and John Kennedy, who share close wartime experiences. All served in the Navy in the South Pacific, and both Nixon and McCarthy worked in Naval Intelligence. Kennedy famously opposed secret organizations and spoke openly about it. And they killed him.
 
::After a thorough purging of the American government (look at the careers of [[Hiss]], [[Oppenheimer]], etc) a new generation of American leaders came to power who were veterans of these wars. Contrary to the popular histories of those wars, many veterans who risked their lives and fought those wars for "freedom, democracy", etc. felt they had been betrayed and the effort was for nothing (with the rise of Communist bloc in [[Eastern Europe]] and [[China]]). Among this generation of new leaders is Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, and John Kennedy, who share close wartime experiences. All served in the Navy in the South Pacific, and both Nixon and McCarthy worked in Naval Intelligence. Kennedy famously opposed secret organizations and spoke openly about it. And they killed him.
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::Fast forward to the post-Cold War (post-[[Papa Bush]]) Clinton era. The baby boomer spoiled brats and incompetents who grew up on sex, drugs, rock roll and were brainwashed by KGB propaganda during the [[Vietnam war]] now took over leadership and control of the deep state. It wasn't suddenly, but it did occur over the next 20 years. America's "national security apparatus", which had been in the hands of conservative Republicans since Eisenhower, by the time of the [[Patriot Act]] and Obama was firmly in the hands of the commie left subversive Democrats, the children of the targets of [[COINTELPRO]]. It's now payback time. And this generation of deep staters aren't focused on foreign influence. They are focused on their perceived domestic enemies. More later. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 06:00, August 22, 2023 (EDT)
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::Fast forward to the post-Cold War (post-[[Papa Bush]]) Clinton era. The baby boomer spoiled brats and incompetents who grew up on sex, drugs, rock n roll and were brainwashed by KGB propaganda during the [[Vietnam war]] now took over leadership and control of the deep state. It wasn't suddenly, but it did occur over the next 20 years. America's "national security apparatus", which had been in the hands of conservative Republicans since Eisenhower, by the time of the [[Patriot Act]] and Obama was firmly in the hands of the commie left subversive Democrats, the children of the targets of [[COINTELPRO]]. It's now payback time. And this generation of deep staters aren't focused on foreign influence. They are focused on their perceived domestic enemies. More later. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 06:00, August 22, 2023 (EDT)
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::Brief recap of the attitudes, prejudices, and experiences of the WWII generation. The generation that fought WWII gave America four president - all who fought in the South Pacific against the Japanese Empire - Kennedy, Nixon, Ford, and Papa Bush. They carried the burden of combat daily for more than 3 1/2 years since the day the war began. No American veteran of Europe and Normandy (who fought the Nazis for only 9 months and were already badly battered by the Soviet Union) ever served as president. The WWII generation that grew up in poverty and hunger of the 1930s spoiled their children in the more prosperous 1950s. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 07:09, August 22, 2023 (EDT)
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::Brief recap of the attitudes, prejudices, and experiences of the WWII generation. The generation that fought WWII gave America four presidents - all who fought in the South Pacific against the Japanese Empire - Kennedy, Nixon, Ford, and Papa Bush. They carried the burden of combat daily for more than 3 1/2 years since the day the war began. No American veteran of Europe and Normandy (who fought the Nazis for only 9 months and were already badly battered by the Soviet Union) ever served as president. The WWII generation that grew up in poverty and hunger of the 1930s spoiled their children in the more prosperous 1950s. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 07:09, August 22, 2023 (EDT)
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::IOWs, there has been a complete reversal of roles in America: the children and grandchildren of commie subversives of the McCarthy era, Vietnam war protesters and draft dodgers, Democrats and assorted leftists, etc., now are in control of the Deep State, and conservative Republicans are out. The hunted have become the hunters. Like the KKK up to the [[New Deal]] era, they perceive the [[Republican party]] as the greatest [[national security]] threat to America, not any foreign influence like the Comintern, "Russia", the [[Peoples Republic of China]], Islamic terrorism, etc. To the extent they engage in warmongering rhetoric against Russia and China, they only seek to unify the country under Democrat control. The neocons, smaller in number, are different subject, however they work hand in glove with these commie deep staters for similar objects; however their focus is foreign enemies, and they can be seen as manipulate the Democrat commie deep staters. Both factions enjoy controlling the biggest [[boondoggle]] of all, the [[military industrial complex]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 07:31, August 22, 2023 (EDT)
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