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→Ukraine Ministry of Defense: Russian Losses near 265,000
:This is again a tit-for-tat reprisal in anticipation of the Russian Ministry of Defense announcement of Ukrainian deaths in the 90 counteroffensive Jun 4 to Sept 4, 2023. Some anticipate as high as 80,000 KIA. Last reported figure after 60 days was 57,000. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 10:20, September 3, 2023 (EDT)
:This is again a tit-for-tat reprisal in anticipation of the Russian Ministry of Defense announcement of Ukrainian deaths in the 90 counteroffensive Jun 4 to Sept 4, 2023. Some anticipate as high as 80,000 KIA. Last reported figure after 60 days was 57,000. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 10:20, September 3, 2023 (EDT)
::Now, this leads to an interesting discussion: the Russian Defense Ministry claims its reports on Ukrainian deaths come frontline radio intercept's back to HQ. There is no reason for the Russian MOD to lie about this. So the only way for Ukraine to censor these reports is to go to hand carried reports back to HQ, which means HQ isn't aware or up to date on the current situation on the front in real time. But they are very unlikely to go to this step. Experience shows Ukraine assessments on Russian losses are actually projection - i.e. a report on their own losses. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 10:25, September 3, 2023 (EDT)
::Now, this leads to an interesting discussion: the Russian Defense Ministry claims its reports on Ukrainian deaths come frontline radio intercept's back to HQ. There is no reason for the Russian MOD to lie about this. So the only way for Ukraine to censor these reports is to go to hand carried reports back to HQ, which means HQ isn't aware or up to date on the current situation on the front in real time. But they are very unlikely to go to this step. Experience shows Ukraine assessments on Russian losses are actually projection - i.e. a report on their own losses.
:The scale of the losses prepares people to mitigate against the shock when the truth comes out about Ukrainian losses. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 10:25, September 3, 2023 (EDT)
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