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Revision as of 06:30, September 26, 2023
, 06:30, September 26, 2023→What's your knowledge of Giuseppe Mazzini?
:—[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 02:05, September 26, 2023 (EDT)
:—[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 02:05, September 26, 2023 (EDT)
::In historical terms, I would call that two-page document a forgery. It's not the letter itself {what language was the original written in?} appears to be a summary c. 1977 that fits the perspectives of people of that era, post WWII. I don't see a hint or smell of any 19th century idioms. And I don't know much about Pike. I do know many of the Grand Masons or Grand Wizards or whatever they are, are local kingpins, and don't necessarily have a national or worldview. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 02:17, September 26, 2023 (EDT)
::In historical terms, I would call that two-page document a forgery. It's not the letter itself {what language was the original written in?} appears to be a summary c. 1977 that fits the perspectives of people of that era, post WWII. I don't see a hint or smell of any 19th century idioms. And I don't know much about Pike. I do know many of the Grand Masons or Grand Wizards or whatever they are, are local kingpins, and don't necessarily have a national or worldview. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 02:17, September 26, 2023 (EDT)
:::I suppose you got a fair point. The last bit about "nihilists and atheists," however, appears possibly authentic. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 02:30, September 26, 2023 (EDT)
To understand the non-democratic [[feudal]] society that existed in Europe between 1815-1914, you actually need [[Machiavelli]] (from 3 centuries earlier). Read the first sentence of the ''The Prince''; in the 19th century, Europe had a growing population, it was more urbanized, less agricultural workers, more tradesman and craftsmen, yet their governments remained principalities ruled by noble bloodlines with bureaucracies that couldn't really handle a growing population. People had no rights, like freedom of the press, jury trial, etc. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 01:48, September 26, 2023 (EDT)
To understand the non-democratic [[feudal]] society that existed in Europe between 1815-1914, you actually need [[Machiavelli]] (from 3 centuries earlier). Read the first sentence of the ''The Prince''; in the 19th century, Europe had a growing population, it was more urbanized, less agricultural workers, more tradesman and craftsmen, yet their governments remained principalities ruled by noble bloodlines with bureaucracies that couldn't really handle a growing population. People had no rights, like freedom of the press, jury trial, etc. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 01:48, September 26, 2023 (EDT)
:Oh, Machiavelli ties into this as well? Wow. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 01:59, September 26, 2023 (EDT)
:Oh, Machiavelli ties into this as well? Wow. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 01:59, September 26, 2023 (EDT)