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::Now, OTOH let's suppose Israeli commanders aren't as stupid as American & Ukrainian commanders who keep sending men & material pointlessly to be killed and destroyed; let's suppose Israeli commanders are more like Russian commanders, who value the lives of their soldiers and civilians first. Then we're looking at a more protracted conflict. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 16:06, October 8, 2023 (EDT)
::Now, OTOH let's suppose Israeli commanders aren't as stupid as American & Ukrainian commanders who keep sending men & material pointlessly to be killed and destroyed; let's suppose Israeli commanders are more like Russian commanders, who value the lives of their soldiers and civilians first. Then we're looking at a more protracted conflict. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 16:06, October 8, 2023 (EDT)
:::No, man. The Israelis are going to launch devastating punitive raids with conventional forces and then GTFO there. Hamas will be crippled in Gaza and Hezbollah will take a serious pasting in southern Lebanon.
:::The inevitable civilian deaths will be more than sufficient to scupper any Israeli-Saudi normalisation talks for the foreseeable and Iran will likely be happy enough with that.
:::Once the dust has settled, Netanyahu & the far-right clowns in his coalition will likely pay the same electoral price as Golda Meir's administration did re. similar intelligence failures in '73. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:01, October 8, 2023 (EDT)