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| | :Alright, back from Sabbath, and- yeah... I'm not even going to respond to these stale accusations anymore (I got better things to do). I already exposed the facade behind Zionists and neo-Nazis propagating the exact narrative to lump Palestinians with Nazis. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 21:35, July 13, 2024 (EDT) | | :Alright, back from Sabbath, and- yeah... I'm not even going to respond to these stale accusations anymore (I got better things to do). I already exposed the facade behind Zionists and neo-Nazis propagating the exact narrative to lump Palestinians with Nazis. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 21:35, July 13, 2024 (EDT) |
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| | + | Fact: Hitler, Nazis were against anything related to, associated with Jews, (even removing any Christianity links to Jews). But LT decided he was "not" -- hear that -- anti Zion. LT basically says Hitler, the ''vernichtung'' guy... wished supposedly to give 'power' to Jews. |
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| | + | Asides from LT avoidance of what Rob quoted the famous Hitler to palestine nazi Arab leader: "The Jews are yours." Very much classic "zionism." |
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| | + | [https://books.google.com./books?id=wvRjAAAAIBAJ&pg=PA6 The Age 10 Nov. 1936] |
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| | + | REWRITING HISTORY. |
| | + | The demand of the Nazi newspaper |
| | + | "Westdeutscher Beobachter" that the Jews be eliminated from the Bible, and the Scriptures be rewritten so as to harmonise with the Nazi idea that the Nordic race, represented in its highest and purest form by the Germans, is the chosen people, is astonishing most educated people. But it is, after all, only a natural development of the self-worship of Nazis and their hatred and persecution of the Jews. |
| | + | The Nazi newspaper sympathises with the difficulties of German school teachers in explaining to - their pupils, that it was to a Jew named Moses, God revealed His commandments. How can Nazi teachers reconcile to the keen.. |
| | + | The Nazis have shocked the world by their barbarous persecution of the Jews in the effort to excel them from Germany; but to expel them from the Bible...</i> |
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| | + | [https://books.google.com/books?id=GDpPAAAAIBAJ&pg=PA17 St. Petersburg Times · 15 Jan 1937]. |
| | + | <i>NAZIS REWRITE BIBLE TO SUIT HITLER'S IDEA Anti-Semitic Propaganda Inserted Into New German Scripture]. |
| | + | BERLIN, Jan. 15.— (AP)— , Extreme Nazis and Catnolic churcn leaders, usually at opposite religious poles, were agreed today in hostility to an effort to give the Bible a new, Anti-Semitic rendering, denting Jesus was a Jew.</i> |
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| | + | That: [https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3248081,00.html Hitler's Nazi weapons shipped to Arab Palestinians] to target Jews and Brits 1936-9 and his speech in favor of the Palestine Arabs don't even need to be brought up, only to a gullible confused person that misreads facts motivated - not by truth. . |
| | + | Old [https://books.google.com/books?id=lDohAAAAIBAJ&pg=PA7 News flash]: |
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| | + | Secret German foreign policy documents, captured in Betlin in 1945 have just been released to the press. Aming them is the complete reception of Saudi's special envoy by Hitler at the Rerghof in 1939. The envoy was Khalid al Hud. Hitler told him that the Arabs and Germans had the same enemy: The Jews. |
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| | + | Hitler discussed "Palestine and conditions there, and he then stated that he himself would not rest until the last Jew had left Germany." Khalid al Hud replied that "the P... Mohammed, who, apart from having been a religious leader, had also been a great statesman, and acted in the same way. He had driven all the Jews out of Arabia." ... |
| | + | The saudi representative met, too, with Nazi Forein Minister Vin Ribbentrop. The transcript revealed that von Ribbentrop told the Arab that the Nazi attitude toward the Arabs was "imbued with a warm feeling of general sympathy". Von Ribbentrop said the Germans and Arabs were linked by common aims and a common foe in the shape of Jewry." ... |
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| | + | Document No. 313 originating from Nazi diplomat Grobba in Baghdad, disclosed German finaneing of anti-Jewish terrorism in Palestine. The Nazis channeled funds and arms through Saudi Arabia for use by Arab marauders attacking Palestinian Jews.</i> |
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| | + | <u>The "conflict" (1913-1948)</u> |
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| | + | - 1913/4: The Ottoman authorities banned [https://books.google.com/books?id=mMEsAQAAIAAJ&q=%22in+1914,+the+periodical+falastin%22] ''Falastin'' for "inciting race hatred," it was especially triggered by an Islamic Sheikh's anti-Semitic poem there in 1913. |
| | + | The Brits reinstating ''Falastin'' triggered fears even by moderate Arab mayor. |
| | + | Indeed, the genocidal ''adbakh al-Yahud'' - "Slaughter the Jews" slogans were led by Al-Husseini in 1920/1. |
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| | + | - The brutal murder accompanied by rapes in Hebron 1929 (after inflaming by an Imam), was upon non-Zionist[https://books.google.com/books?id=AvU8DAAAQBAJ&pg=PA686] orthdox Jews, who even rejected Haganah defense guys' offer days earlier. |
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| | + | - 1933-1946 overview: |
| | + | Arab Pro-nazi sentiments grew dramatically 1932-1939. (The British took control over Arab presss during war time). Even after the war, there were expressions of pro Nazis -- before and after hanging at Nuremberg trials -- by major Arab press in the land. |
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| | + | - Years before (1947/8) Jamal Husseini representing (AHC) Arab Higher Committee's refusal for the Partition because of Arab supremacy racism that it will disturb Arab ["https://books.google.com/books?id=vHRUEAAAQBAJ&pg=PA66 "race," and "homogeneity in race" of the Arab world,'] he ordered ''Mein Kampf'' and the infamous forgery ''The Protocols'' - [https://www.nli.org.il/en/newspapers/?a=is&oid=cgs19330615-01.2.26&type=snippetimage&e=-------en-20--1--img-txIN%7ctxTI-Jamal+husseini+Hitler-------------1 (reported) June 1933]. |
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| | + | The efforts by <u>Arab Palestinians to found the Arab Nazi Party</u>: |
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| | + | * [http://books.google.com/books?id=zQYQ0tho6mAC&pg=PA106 Palestinian Arab students returning from studying in Europe were determined to found the Arab Nazi party in Palestine]. |
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| | + | * The Mufti urges the Nazis to establish an Arab Nazi Party. He is rejected [https://books.google.com/books?id=jqYaBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA78] at least initially. |
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| | + | * 1935: [https://www.jta.org/archive/arabs-in-haifa-form-nazi-club-well-financed Arabs in Haifa Form Nazi Club], named: "The Red Moon." |
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| | + | * End of 1935 the Husseinis found the "Palestine Arab Party" and its Hitler Youth modeled Futuwwa [https://books.google.com/books?id=CC7381HrLqcC&pg=PA89], was for a while called the "Nazi Scouts." |
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| | + | <u>Random facts</u>: |
| | + | [http://pdfs.jta.org/1933/1933-11-23_2700.pdf?_ga=2.193753197.1918788372.1674724338-1383206357.1674611108 Nov. 1933], it was reported, a direct contact between the German Nazis and the Palestinian Arabs, Arab Riot Leaders, revealed by Nazis. And that "Eissa el Bendak, newly appointed members of the Arab Executive's administrative bureau, will direct a propaganda in Palestine in the interests of the Nazi party." |
| | + | Arab-Nazi collaboration took place on the ideological |
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| | + | Arab-Nazi collaboration took place on the ideological plane as well as the political and military planes. On a visit to Berlin in 1937, Mufti's emissary, Dr Sa`id `Abdel-Fattah Iman of the Damascus Arab Club proposed, inter alia, to promote National Socialist ideology among the Arabs and Muslims generally. [http://www.think-israel.org/green.nazis.html] |
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| | + | There is no space here on this page about [https://books.google.com/books?id=qCXBAgAAQBAJ&pg=PT156 The Nazi-Arab/Islamist Alliance Prepares for Battle] and the war years. [It's important to note the June-1941 Arab-Nazi pogrom in Baghdad after incitement by Mufti and Arab palestinian teachers there. The <font color=red>red</font> hand ''Hamsa'' was marked on Jews' owned locations ahead of time]. |
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| | + | But here are<b> a few highlights: |
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| | + | * Historian review on major Arab newspapers in Palestine supporting Hitler; ''Falastin'' since 1932/3 - 1933 "Noble (sic) Hitler says ''[https://www.nli.org.il/en/newspapers/pls/1933/05/22/01/article/42 Falastin]''" is an example). |
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| | + | * Author - (on ''el-Carmel'' stating in 1932 its fascists' inspiration and) “All parties were dragged along by the extremists of the Istiqlal, whose newspaper al-Difa'a became a Nazi propaganda pamphlet.” |
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| | + | * Kamel Mrowa ([كامل مروّه] Kaamel Mruwweh, Kamil Muruwa), as the editor of the Beirut paper ''An-Nida'', wrote to Von Ribbentrop the German foreign minister in Berlin: "The whole Arab youth is enthused by Adolf Hitler." (1933). (In neighboring Levant - a blanket statement about Arabs in the area). |
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| | + | * The editor of 'Al-Jami'a al-Islamiyya' [الجماعة الإسلامية] wrote on May 22, 1933: "When Hitlerism appeared, the Arabs cheered and rejoiced, saying: A blow from heaven in the hands of others..." |
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| | + | * The Templars' ''Die Warte des Tempels'' wrote March 15, 1935, that many Arabs saw Hitler as the most important man of the 20th century and almost every Arab knew his name. Fascism and National Socialism with its anti-Jewish attitude were accepted positively by many Arabs. |
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| | + | * Nuremberg (Nazi events) effect in rousing Arabs of Palestine: The great momentum of Nazi propaganda in the Middle East occurred in September 1935. When the "Nuremberg Laws" against the Jews were discovered and published, Hitler received greetings from all Arab countries and Islam. The largest number came from Palestine. |
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| | + | * 1936-8: "Nazi flags and pictures of Hitler were prominently displayed in store windows. Booklets explaining Nazi methods of forcing Jews from the Reich were distributed freely... The shout of 'Heil Hitler' became a catchword which rang insolently over all Palestine." |
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| | + | * NYT May 1937, how 'All' of Palestine celebrated Muhammad's birthday with flying Nazi swastika and pictures of Hitler. |
| | + | Arabs' newspapers, urging the pupils to disobey Government Education Department issued orders prohibiting Arab pupils to participate in the May 1937 demonstrations. |
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| | + | * 1937, Walter Doehle, German consul in Jerusalem: "Palestinian Arabs in all social strata have great sympathies for the new Germany and its Führer…" Unveiled documents of Nazi official in Palestine writing to Berlin in 1937: |
| | + | ‘Arabs admire our Fuhrer’ - “The Palestinian Arabs show on all levels a great sympathy for the new Germany and its Fuhrer, a sympathy whose value is particularly high as it is based on a purely ideological foundation,” a Nazi official in Palestine wrote in a letter to Berlin in 1937. He added: “Most important for the sympathies which Arabs now feel towards Germany is their admiration for our Fuhrer, especially during the unrests, I often had an opportunity to see how far these sympathies extend. When faced with a dangerous behaviour of an Arab mass, when one said that one was German, this was already generally a free pass.” |
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| | + | * Awni Abd al-Hadi (leader of the Istiqlal Arab Independence Party and member of the Arab High Committee [AHC] in Palestine, Ahmad Shukeiri’s employer), Jan 1937 general statement: 'Arabs Like Nazis'; bragging he read Mein Kampf. |
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| | + | * Journalist John Gunther in 1939: "The greatest contemporary Arab hero is — Adolf Hitler." (Elaborating on the Palestine link about it). |
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| | + | * Ahmad [Shukairy] Shukeiri's testimony in his 1969 book about 1940, on all - sympathizing with the Nazis. |
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| | + | * Noted in 1937: "leaders of the Arab youth who seem to be more extreme in their nationalism than the older generation. Educated in schools which are, in spite of government ownership, hotbeds of chauvinism and anti-Jewish propaganda, these youths are also greatly influenced by fascist and anti- Semitic tendencies in present-day Europe. Hitler is for many of them the glorious hero and teacher." |
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| | + | * Some 88% in Feb. 1941 poll - favoring the Axis: Arab-Palestine. |
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| | + | * ''We Arabs supported Hitler during WWII because he hated the Jews,'' recalled in a 2019 interview, former Jordanian health minister Dr. Zaid Hamzeh who was nine years old at the 1941 Rashid Ali coup days. (A general statement on Arabs, especially by witness in the very area). |
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| | + | * That the pro-Nazi Mufti represented the consensus of Palestine Arabs and had major backing of parties there. Per (anti-Israel author) Edward Said's concession.] And Time Magazine in 1946: 'The 53-year-old Mufti... is revered as a spiritual leader by Palestine's Arabs.' |
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| | + | * Arab activist, in telling the story of his childhood, as a matter of fact, during the war: "most of the Arabs in Israel were in favor of Nazi Germany." [Referring to Arabs in the land of Israel - Mandatory Palestine]. |
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| | + | * 1940, in an American popular magazine, it was simply put, that "Palestine's Arabs admire Hitler for his Jew-baiting." |
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| | + | * Historian on the Arabs in the land, referring on the WW2 period - atmosphere: "anticipation of the results of the war and wishes of the majority of Arabs that Britain would emerge defeated in it." |
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| | + | Author, journalist historian: ''The Arab street, which had been trained for decades to hate the British and harass the Jews, now found in Hitler, after his first victories, with the beginning of the war, the one who fulfills his wishes... The relationship between Hitler and Haj Amin determines the mood in the Arab street... The land of Israel was indeed a home front country and lived in relative peace, but the Arab street did not hide its admiration for Hitler and the Third Reich. Hitler was portrayed in the minds of the Arabs as the greatest friend of the Arab nation. They admired him for his hatred of the Jews and for the fact that he despised them and decided to exterminate them from the face of the earth. Hitler symbolized bravery and wisdom, leadership ability and certain victory.'' |
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| | + | * A founder of the League for Arab-Jewish Friendship, after consulting with all her Jewish friends who have been in contact with Arabs for many years, and with all her Arab friends, in May 1942: "The vast majority of Arabs in Palestine and throughout the Middle East believe that Hitler will conquer the whole world. The current Arab leaders, who all support Hitler, believe he will win because they want him to win. The Arab masses also believe that Hitler is the most powerful force in the entire world, and therefore he is obliged to come out with the upper hand. |
| | + | However, there are a number of Arab intellectuals, merchants, workers, and farmers who are not sure of Hitler's victory..." |
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| | + | * In June 1942, as the British bastion 'Tobruk' fell to the Nazis, Palestinian Arabs (as well as other Arabs), rejoiced. |
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| | + | * CIA August 1942 report: |
| | + | majority of the Arabs in Palestine Palestinian Arabs are fiercely 'anti-Jewish'… the radicals, who form a majority, see in the approach of Rommel an ideal opportunity to murder all Jews their seize their property. |
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| | + | * Dec 21, 1942 letter, representatives of the Reich and the NSDAP in Palestine described the Arabs' hope for a great Arab state: "Arabs in Palestine were waiting for Hitler to come to Palestine and expel all the Jews. They hoped for a German intervention to solve their conflict with consideration of their needs. Rommel was their legendary hero. Many Arabs truly believed in the Germans' victory. Some of them even listened to the short-wave German broadcast, the Kurzwellensender." |
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| | + | * Nazis' planned 'extermination of the Jews in Palestine,' (stopped by Desert Rats - elaborated book), relied on help that they awaited from many local Arabs ready to serve as willing accomplices of the Germans in the Middle East. |
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| | + | * An Egyptian, who visited the country in the days after the conquest of Berlin wrote: "The people cry in the morning and sob in the evening. And blow to their cheek between morning and evening." |
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| | + | * Reaction of most Arabs that heard of the fate of the Jews in Europe, summer-1942 - 'open joy.' |
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| | + | *Author recalls: "My father ... knew that most of the Palestine Arab leaders supported the Nazis." |
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| | + | * Naturally, Arab-Palestinian Leader Farouq Qaddoumi stated (2013): We Supported The Nazis In WWII - as a general description - because of common anti-Zionists. |
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| | + | * Arab "Palestinian" leader, in Jerusalem (then under Jordanian rule), in spring of 1967: "We Arabs supported Hitler to get the British out of Palestine and to keep the Jews from taking it over - and that was our big mistake..." |
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| | + | The vast majority of the Palestinian (and all-Arab) national movement identified, whether openly or tacitly, with the position of their Mufti al-Husseini World War II leader, a loyal partner of Hitler, Himmler and Eichmann in the decision to physically eliminate the Jewish people. |
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| | + | * As it was put in 1949: |
| | + | ''There is hardly a single Arab leader today who in those days was not an ally of Nazi Germany. The Nazi-Arab partnership flourished at a time when the war was close to the gates of our country, and names such as Rashid Ali, Amin al-Husseini, etc. still symbolize the "glorious" period of this idyll. The ending, as recalled, was not so glorious.'' |
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| | + | Now, those are <u>facts</u><b> |
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| | + | PS, LT did not link Hitler to his Christian upbringing but he chose to link "inspiration" not on Hinduism nor on Islam Sufism by some who belonged to a group before Nazism who 'heard' a salad of ideologies. Ironically, he quoted Walid Phares who is rather anti Palestinian as harsh as any radical right winger zionist.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 23:22, July 13, 2024 (EDT) |
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| | == Candance Owens boldly tells Don Lemon: Same sex "marriage" is sin == | | == Candance Owens boldly tells Don Lemon: Same sex "marriage" is sin == |
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| | ::::Plus the added bonus of having to cancel all rallies for the remainder of the election season cause nobody's gonna show up if they risk getting shot or killed. And think of all the money he'll save not having to stage anymore rallies. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 23:18, July 13, 2024 (EDT) | | ::::Plus the added bonus of having to cancel all rallies for the remainder of the election season cause nobody's gonna show up if they risk getting shot or killed. And think of all the money he'll save not having to stage anymore rallies. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 23:18, July 13, 2024 (EDT) |
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| | + | ::::Dear LT, please stop 'conspiracy theories,' as well as illusions, whether on historic facts (twisting around WW2 truth etc.) or current events. Take heed and learn from (pre WW2) incitement/ demonizing what it led to. |
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| | + | We are '''all''' praying for Trump mow! |
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| | + | The image of Trump defiant pumping his fist: 'Fight.' Wil be engraved in our national history.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 23:22, July 13, 2024 (EDT) |
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| | :Apparently it was a professional sniper. He may have scored a headshot on the second shot. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 21:57, July 13, 2024 (EDT) | | :Apparently it was a professional sniper. He may have scored a headshot on the second shot. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 21:57, July 13, 2024 (EDT) |
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| − | == The Nazi connection to the "Judeo-Christian" canard == | + | == Suggested "connection" to the 'Judeo-Christian' == |
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| | If I recall correctly from Glen Yeadon's "The Nazi Hydra in America," Eisenhower and his Administration were Nazi collaborators (namely the Dulles brothers). Now, this is interesting, considering Ike's early role in fomenting the right-wing "Judeo-Christian" religious alliance those evil godless secular atheistic Soviet Communists. And it's a well-documented fact that [[William Randolph Hearst]]—the reactionary, racist Illuminist media mogul who supported Hitler—commanded his newspapers to boost the early apparatus of Masonic initiate and dispensationalist mouthpiece [[Billy Graham]]. | | If I recall correctly from Glen Yeadon's "The Nazi Hydra in America," Eisenhower and his Administration were Nazi collaborators (namely the Dulles brothers). Now, this is interesting, considering Ike's early role in fomenting the right-wing "Judeo-Christian" religious alliance those evil godless secular atheistic Soviet Communists. And it's a well-documented fact that [[William Randolph Hearst]]—the reactionary, racist Illuminist media mogul who supported Hitler—commanded his newspapers to boost the early apparatus of Masonic initiate and dispensationalist mouthpiece [[Billy Graham]]. |
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| | Anyone like to guess why the same Masonic-Illuminist elitists were connected to both the Nazi and "Judeo-Christian" cause? —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 21:56, July 13, 2024 (EDT) | | Anyone like to guess why the same Masonic-Illuminist elitists were connected to both the Nazi and "Judeo-Christian" cause? —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 21:56, July 13, 2024 (EDT) |
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| | + | ::Historic contest: "Judea Christian" was first used by in 1821 re convets to Christianity. In LT's context terminology it was first used by in the 1930s to dustinguish from Fascidm snd Cimmunism then prominenta by conservative [[Ronald Reagan]]. See my comment above (including Nazis rewriting Bible removing the Jew) about '''your OVERALL anti-facts and your flawed trend''' , monstrous language, converting canards into supposed "facts," and facts into supposed "canards," most strange word-salad, attempting so hard to "connect" totally unrelated or even contrast ideas. '''Attending to your searched out cases for your horrific war is pointless'''. God bless dear LT. I hope you see the light and truth in future.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 23:22, July 13, 2024 (EDT) |