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Debate: Should Christians keep the feast days (view source)
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, 22:21, July 15, 2024→Digression on law
::::::::So I'll ask again: Who screwed up? God or man? Didn't God promise to replace the Law with a New Covenant? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 17:49, July 15, 2024 (EDT)
::::::::So I'll ask again: Who screwed up? God or man? Didn't God promise to replace the Law with a New Covenant? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 17:49, July 15, 2024 (EDT)
:::::::::I already answered that question: man screwed up. And God didn't replace the law/Torah with the New Covenant; He replaced the Old Covenant with the New Covenant. Both covenants ''pertain to'' the law, primarily the punishment for transgression. God replaced the Old Covenant with the New to better suit "dealing with" the sinful nature of man and help him. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Monday, 18:07, July 15, 2024 (EDT)
:::::::::I already answered that question: man screwed up. And God didn't replace the law/Torah with the New Covenant; He replaced the Old Covenant with the New Covenant. Both covenants ''pertain to'' the law, primarily the punishment for transgression. God replaced the Old Covenant with the New to better suit "dealing with" the sinful nature of man and help him. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Monday, 18:07, July 15, 2024 (EDT)
::::::::::Ok, you got this part half right: "punishment for transgression". Should read, "punishment for rebellion" or "punishment for rebellion against God". More specifically, rejecting God. Thankfully, God offers us a second chance through Christ. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 18:21, July 15, 2024 (EDT)
:::::::::If the New Covenant replaced the law/Torah, then it would directly contradict Jesus's words in Matthew 5:18: "until heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or one tittle will pass from the law until all is accomplished." —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Monday, 18:09, July 15, 2024 (EDT)
:::::::::If the New Covenant replaced the law/Torah, then it would directly contradict Jesus's words in Matthew 5:18: "until heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or one tittle will pass from the law until all is accomplished." —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Monday, 18:09, July 15, 2024 (EDT)
::::::::::The Law cannot make righteous. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 18:13, July 15, 2024 (EDT)
::::::::::The Law cannot make righteous. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 18:13, July 15, 2024 (EDT)
:::::::(ec) Here's what the Bible teachers (in thumbnail): The Grace of God has always existed, laid before the foundations of the Earth. With the fall of Adam, and murder of righteous Abel (and what came afterward, ''"every thought of his heart was to do evil continuously"''), man rejected God's Grace, and chose Law. But the Law was only our schoolmaster, to bring us unto righteousness. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 18:13, July 15, 2024 (EDT)
:::::::(ec) Here's what the Bible teachers (in thumbnail): The Grace of God has always existed, laid before the foundations of the Earth. With the fall of Adam, and murder of righteous Abel (and what came afterward, ''"every thought of his heart was to do evil continuously"''), man rejected God's Grace, and chose Law. But the Law was only our schoolmaster, to bring us unto righteousness. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 18:13, July 15, 2024 (EDT)