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| | :::::::::If the New Covenant replaced the law/Torah, then it would directly contradict Jesus's words in Matthew 5:18: "until heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or one tittle will pass from the law until all is accomplished." —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Monday, 18:09, July 15, 2024 (EDT) | | :::::::::If the New Covenant replaced the law/Torah, then it would directly contradict Jesus's words in Matthew 5:18: "until heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or one tittle will pass from the law until all is accomplished." —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Monday, 18:09, July 15, 2024 (EDT) |
| | ::::::::::The Law cannot make righteous. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 18:13, July 15, 2024 (EDT) | | ::::::::::The Law cannot make righteous. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 18:13, July 15, 2024 (EDT) |
| | + | :::::::::::Well yes, because the law is only a collection of God's perfect rules which judges our iniquities. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 20:50, July 15, 2024 (EDT) |
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| | :::::::(ec) Here's what the Bible teachers (in thumbnail): The Grace of God has always existed, laid before the foundations of the Earth. With the fall of Adam, and murder of righteous Abel (and what came afterward, ''"every thought of his heart was to do evil continuously"''), man rejected God's Grace, and chose Law. But the Law was only our schoolmaster, to bring us unto righteousness. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 18:13, July 15, 2024 (EDT) | | :::::::(ec) Here's what the Bible teachers (in thumbnail): The Grace of God has always existed, laid before the foundations of the Earth. With the fall of Adam, and murder of righteous Abel (and what came afterward, ''"every thought of his heart was to do evil continuously"''), man rejected God's Grace, and chose Law. But the Law was only our schoolmaster, to bring us unto righteousness. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 18:13, July 15, 2024 (EDT) |
| | ::::::::Man chose law? If man chose to abide by God's law, he would not have sinned, because "sin is the transgression of the law." (I John 3:4) And there is no transgression where there is no law (Rom. 4:35), which means that since Adam and Cain clearly committed some infraction, they violated God's instituted law. Grace means redemption from the stain of sin, justified by God, to thereafter walk in His law instead of one's own ways. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 20:49, July 15, 2024 (EDT) | | ::::::::Man chose law? If man chose to abide by God's law, he would not have sinned, because "sin is the transgression of the law." (I John 3:4) And there is no transgression where there is no law (Rom. 4:35), which means that since Adam and Cain clearly committed some infraction, they violated God's instituted law. Grace means redemption from the stain of sin, justified by God, to thereafter walk in His law instead of one's own ways. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 20:49, July 15, 2024 (EDT) |