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| | :::::Abraham didn't hesitate and say, "Now wait a minute. How you gonna do this? If I slit Issac's throat, how you gonna multiply my seed as the stars of heaven? Huh? Huh?" Abraham believed God (i.e. had faith in God) and it was reckoned unto him as righteousness. ''By faith are ye saved.'' Abraham knew God would make Isaac live again. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 22:00, July 15, 2024 (EDT) | | :::::Abraham didn't hesitate and say, "Now wait a minute. How you gonna do this? If I slit Issac's throat, how you gonna multiply my seed as the stars of heaven? Huh? Huh?" Abraham believed God (i.e. had faith in God) and it was reckoned unto him as righteousness. ''By faith are ye saved.'' Abraham knew God would make Isaac live again. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 22:00, July 15, 2024 (EDT) |
| | *'''Point was made about him misinterpreting facts, history - motivated by negative trend.''' | | *'''Point was made about him misinterpreting facts, history - motivated by negative trend.''' |
| − | To the question, if modern State of Israel is fulfilling in any way the real spiritual way and goal? Of course Not. (Not just because most are secular and all but Bennett were secar PMs). Some believe it is a process. (Some believe this about Trump too). But to outrageously deny the Biblical and historic (befoe Arab invasion) linkage to the land is rewriting, again. | + | To the question, if modern State of Israel is fulfilling in any way the real spiritual way and goal? Of course Not. (Not just because most are secular and all but Bennett were secar PMs). Some believe it is a process. (Some believe this about Trump too). But to outrageously deny the Biblical and historic (befoe [https://books.google.com/books?id=zQA8EAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover Arab invasion]) linkage to the land is rewriting, again. |
| | [[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 22:48, July 15, 2024 (EDT) | | [[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 22:48, July 15, 2024 (EDT) |
| | {{Cquote|It is interesting to note that Israel cannot live in her land today and have peace while she continues to reject God. It is not Russia or the Arabs that are giving Israel so much trouble; it is God. Israel is God’s chosen people. He is going to bring them back to their land someday in faith and belief. They are returning to the land today in unbelief, and they do not have peace. This is the evidence of the hand of God in the affairs of the world.|||J. Vernon McGee}} | | {{Cquote|It is interesting to note that Israel cannot live in her land today and have peace while she continues to reject God. It is not Russia or the Arabs that are giving Israel so much trouble; it is God. Israel is God’s chosen people. He is going to bring them back to their land someday in faith and belief. They are returning to the land today in unbelief, and they do not have peace. This is the evidence of the hand of God in the affairs of the world.|||J. Vernon McGee}} |
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| | :"Israel is God's chosen people." Well, ''which'' Israel? In Romans, Paul prays that one Israel ''might'' be saved (10:1), assures that another will entirely, assuredly be saved (11:26), and says "they are not all Israel which are ''of'' Israel." (9:6) The "Israel" that is God's chosen people is spiritual Israel. If J. Vernon McGee didn't comprehend this simple fact, I don't care about the rest of what he has to say. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 23:24, July 15, 2024 (EDT) | | :"Israel is God's chosen people." Well, ''which'' Israel? In Romans, Paul prays that one Israel ''might'' be saved (10:1), assures that another will entirely, assuredly be saved (11:26), and says "they are not all Israel which are ''of'' Israel." (9:6) The "Israel" that is God's chosen people is spiritual Israel. If J. Vernon McGee didn't comprehend this simple fact, I don't care about the rest of what he has to say. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 23:24, July 15, 2024 (EDT) |
| | :Hmm, I see that McGee is listed as a prominent alumni of the Dallas Theological Seminary... sounds like he was definitely a Masonic insider trained to spread Futurist/dispensationalist propaganda on behalf of the Jesuits. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 23:28, July 15, 2024 (EDT) | | :Hmm, I see that McGee is listed as a prominent alumni of the Dallas Theological Seminary... sounds like he was definitely a Masonic insider trained to spread Futurist/dispensationalist propaganda on behalf of the Jesuits. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 23:28, July 15, 2024 (EDT) |
| | + | ::<b>Dear Rob. |
| | + | Puishment and or permitted persecution from God does not absolve the perpetrators: whether Blood-libels inventors; German Nazis or Arab/Muslims. See book of Numbers on Pharaoh and the ten plagues. Or about the Babilonians at: Psalms 137:8</b> <small>(And maybe what we say in Iraq is related to that but we don't know of course).</small>.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) |