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| | ::::::Oh, so you're more or less taking the side of 1933-era right-wing BB/ADL/AJC fascisymps who explicitly sabotaged the AJCongress's patriotic boycott. Are you going to ignore that Max Warburg was a board member of I.G. Farben and that the very same Warburg family directed the AJC's Sulzberger president to oppose the boycott? The superficially "Jewish" bourgeois establishment in the U.S., then controlled by their British masters, was highly complicit in the installation of the Third Reich. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 19:03, August 4, 2024 (EDT) | | ::::::Oh, so you're more or less taking the side of 1933-era right-wing BB/ADL/AJC fascisymps who explicitly sabotaged the AJCongress's patriotic boycott. Are you going to ignore that Max Warburg was a board member of I.G. Farben and that the very same Warburg family directed the AJC's Sulzberger president to oppose the boycott? The superficially "Jewish" bourgeois establishment in the U.S., then controlled by their British masters, was highly complicit in the installation of the Third Reich. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 19:03, August 4, 2024 (EDT) |
| | ::::::FYI, I don't care about the "left-right" nonsense just as you repeatedly told me not to. You need to learn to ''consistently'' stand up against right-wing fascism, RobSmith. The effectiveness of economics sanctions is a completely separate debate—the substance of the debate here is that the "liberal" AJCongress put up a fight against Nazi Socialism while the "conservative"-assimilationist wealthy establishmentarians of B'nai B'rith and the American Jewish Committee opposed that patriotic anti-Nazi fight. I don't care what the AJC offered as their excuse; their early-on do-nothing record speaks for itself. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 19:08, August 4, 2024 (EDT) | | ::::::FYI, I don't care about the "left-right" nonsense just as you repeatedly told me not to. You need to learn to ''consistently'' stand up against right-wing fascism, RobSmith. The effectiveness of economics sanctions is a completely separate debate—the substance of the debate here is that the "liberal" AJCongress put up a fight against Nazi Socialism while the "conservative"-assimilationist wealthy establishmentarians of B'nai B'rith and the American Jewish Committee opposed that patriotic anti-Nazi fight. I don't care what the AJC offered as their excuse; their early-on do-nothing record speaks for itself. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 19:08, August 4, 2024 (EDT) |
| | + | ::::::::From a policy perspective, the substance of the debate is ''do sanctions work?'' |
| | + | ::::::::*[[Harry_Dexter_White#Japanese_sanctions|Japanese sanctions]] '''provoked''' the Japanese to [[pearly Harbor attack|attack Pearly harbor]]; |
| | + | ::::::::*Iraqi sanctions '''provoked''' the [[9/11 attacks]]; |
| | + | ::::::::*[[Russian sanctions]] '''provoked''' Russia's '''"unprovoked"''' war in Ukraine. |
| | + | ::::::::You need to focus on policy considerations. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 00:10, August 5, 2024 (EDT) |
| | :Telling, it's very simple: literal Israel in the Old Covenant was a type for the apostolic Christian church of the New Covenant. The church is the "antitypical" temple of God (I Cor. 3:16), the chiastic literary structure is the everlasting menorah, and the bread of life is Christ. (John 6:35) | | :Telling, it's very simple: literal Israel in the Old Covenant was a type for the apostolic Christian church of the New Covenant. The church is the "antitypical" temple of God (I Cor. 3:16), the chiastic literary structure is the everlasting menorah, and the bread of life is Christ. (John 6:35) |
| | :Basically, "literal" Jews by ethnicity lost their "chosen people" status a long time ago. Also, even '''''if''''' ethnic lineage can be demonstrated (to the contrary, it's been conclusively debunked a long time ago), this whole "kohen" surname-bloodline argument is a load of Aryan-esque racialist nonsense—even the prestigious Chief Spreading Bull [[Elizabeth Warren|Lizzie Warren]]'s 1/1,024 Native American heritage holds more water than this notion that the Eurosupremacist elites who created the Fourth Reich have any meaningful Judean ancestry. | | :Basically, "literal" Jews by ethnicity lost their "chosen people" status a long time ago. Also, even '''''if''''' ethnic lineage can be demonstrated (to the contrary, it's been conclusively debunked a long time ago), this whole "kohen" surname-bloodline argument is a load of Aryan-esque racialist nonsense—even the prestigious Chief Spreading Bull [[Elizabeth Warren|Lizzie Warren]]'s 1/1,024 Native American heritage holds more water than this notion that the Eurosupremacist elites who created the Fourth Reich have any meaningful Judean ancestry. |