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→Donald Trump issues ultimatum to Putin over Ukraine war - 'it will only get worse'.
Let's pray for peace, everywhere. [[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 14:57, January 22, 2025 (EST)
Let's pray for peace, everywhere. [[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 14:57, January 22, 2025 (EST)
::Looks like posturing for domestic consumption. The [[MSM]]/[[Deep State]] don't want to tell the American people & Europe that [[NATO]] lost. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 15:08, January 22, 2025 (EST)
::Looks like posturing for domestic consumption. The [[MSM]]/[[Deep State]] don't want to tell the American people & Europe that [[NATO]] lost. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 15:08, January 22, 2025 (EST)
::::Several times I have seen you write that Ukraine or NATO lost. In order to declare a winner or loser in a war, the war must be completed. For example, if the Russian economy were to collapse or a civil war were to break out in Russia that resulted in the breakup of the Russian Federation that might throw a wrench in your triumphalism. Wars are unpredictable and so this type of premature triumphalism should be avoided. With that being said, Russia is a much bigger country than Ukraine population-wise and it has a big artillery advantage. In addition, "victories" can be pyrrhic victories and this could certainly be the case for Russia after the war is completed. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:40, January 22, 2025 (EST)
:Trump's message to Putin was a mix of gratitude, urgency and warning to Russia as can be seen below:
:Trump's message to Putin was a mix of gratitude, urgency and warning to Russia as can be seen below: