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Talk:Science of global warming (view source)
Revision as of 20:53, June 27, 2007
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:::There is a lot of [[liberal bias]] on social science and environmental science - not to mention psychology, economics, religion, history, etc. We cannot be trustworthy if we report liberal ideas as if they were objective. They are not: they have an agenda, and a "dedication to reality at all costs" is in no way part of that agenda. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 11:04, 27 June 2007 (EDT)
:::There is a lot of [[liberal bias]] on social science and environmental science - not to mention psychology, economics, religion, history, etc. We cannot be trustworthy if we report liberal ideas as if they were objective. They are not: they have an agenda, and a "dedication to reality at all costs" is in no way part of that agenda. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 11:04, 27 June 2007 (EDT)
Attitudes? uhm... The article in science is study made by Naomi Oreskos, Science magazine which happens to be one of the most respected science journals just published his work. And that study was based on 928 papers made from global warming by many diffrent climatologists. Allso there are several IPCC reports affirming the consensus and over 30 scientific societies and academies of science agree, actually '''all'''of the national academies of science of the major industrialized countries.
Under this overhelming amount of evidence, i can't see how some one can actually claim that a allmost 20 year old study to which there are no refrences should be used to show the current attitude towards global warming among climatologists. There is just no way anyone can justify that, its platant POV pushing. When the IPCC report at 2001 concluded that there was around 66%-90% certanity that the warming was caused atleast partly by human actions, the latest report said it to be over 90%, So you can only imagine how much has happened in 18 years and how much the attitudes have changed. If that raport referred by Lindzen actually existed and said what he claimed, im sorry, it's not you, but i have hard time trusting Richard Lindzen after reading some of his comments about smoking and cancer.
Lastly i have to say that i really hope you can have open enough mind to get out from gategoricing things as liberal facts and conservative facts, there are no such things, just facts that should be packed by evidence no matter what way they point or does it fit into your political views. Mayby science and it's findings seam liberal because the world is that way. For me, the whole american liberal/conservative thing seams actually quite odd, none of the other countryes i have worked or lived have had such controversy. More i read this site the more i wonder if there is any field in science that dosen't conflict with the world view this site promotes. And im really worryed about that. [[User:HeikkiL|HeikkiL]] 16:53, 27 June 2007 (EDT)