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→‎False claims of consensus?: liberal bias is not trustworthy - we should report what the scientists say, not what politicians claim
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::And i see you locked the article, i don't see why, im not intrested on revert wars, so don't bother because of me, but i would like to hear some reasons for the revert. [[User:HeikkiL|HeikkiL]] 20:40, 26 June 2007 (EDT)
 
::And i see you locked the article, i don't see why, im not intrested on revert wars, so don't bother because of me, but i would like to hear some reasons for the revert. [[User:HeikkiL|HeikkiL]] 20:40, 26 June 2007 (EDT)
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:::But we are not interested in ''attitudes'' about global warming - but what scientists who study the climate actually ''think'' about it. If you want to help me write a spin-off article on the [[Politics of global warming]], we can write about the attitudes expressed on the editorial pages of general scientific journals like ''Nature'' and ''Science''. But this article is only about what climatologists say.
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:::We should quote specific climate scientists like [[Richard Lindzen]] and [[Fred Singer]]. If some recent graduate from a PhD program (like [[Michael Mann]]) wants to present a counter-argument, that's okay too - but we should not accept his new ideas if they run counter to the scientific consensus ''and'' they "cherry-pick" the data to omit evidence which disproves his ideas.
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:::There is a lot of [[liberal bias]] on social science and environmental science - not to mention psychology, economics, religion, history, etc. We cannot be trustworthy if we report liberal ideas as if they were objective. They are not: they have an agenda, and a "dedication to reality at all costs" is in no way part of that agenda. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 11:04, 27 June 2007 (EDT)
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