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Line 4: − == Donald Trump issues ultimatum to Putin over Ukraine war - 'it will only get worse'. == − − Donald Trump issues ultimatum to Putin over Ukraine war - 'it will only get worse'. − US President Donald Trump has threatened Russia with steep tariffs and sanctions if the war in Ukraine does not come to an end soon. − Having barely settled back into the Oval Office since his second inauguration on Monday, the second term president has taken aim at a number of his pre-election promises. Now, Trump has posted a warning message to Russian president Vladimir Putin in which he called on him to end his brutal war in Ukraine. − https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/breaking-donald-trump-issues-ultimatum-34533760 − − Trump threatens Russia with sanctions, tariffs if Putin doesn't end Ukraine war. − https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/business/money-report/trump-threatens-russia-with-sanctions-tariffs-if-putin-doesnt-end-ukraine-war/6117555/?os=etcpasswd&ref=app − Let's pray for peace, everywhere. [[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 14:57, January 22, 2025 (EST) − ::Looks like posturing for domestic consumption. The [[MSM]]/[[Deep State]] don't want to tell the American people & Europe that [[NATO]] lost. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 15:08, January 22, 2025 (EST) − ::::Several times I have seen you write that Ukraine or NATO lost. In order to declare a winner or loser in a war, the war must be completed. For example, if the Russian economy were to collapse or a civil war were to break out in Russia that resulted in the breakup of the Russian Federation that might throw a wrench in your triumphalism. Wars are unpredictable and so this type of premature triumphalism should be avoided. With that being said, Russia is a much bigger country than Ukraine population-wise and it has a big artillery advantage. In addition, "victories" can be [[Pyrrhic victory|pyrrhic victories]] and this could certainly be the case for Russia after the war is completed given its demographic crisis and the current problems with the Russian economy. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:40, January 22, 2025 (EST) − :Trump's message to Putin was a mix of gratitude, urgency and warning to Russia as can be seen below: − − [[File:Trump's message to Russia.png|center|800px]] − − :This is the ''NY Post'' article on the matter: [https://nypost.com/2025/01/22/us-news/trump-tells-putin-to-end-ukraine-war-now-or-else-we-can-do-it-the-easy-way-or-the-hard-way/ Trump tells Putin to end Ukraine war now — or else: ‘We can do it the easy way, or the hard way’]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:04, January 22, 2025 (EST) − ::[[Zelensky]] needs to be removed from power before any Russia-Ukraine negotiations can begin. Trump can do that. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 15:10, January 22, 2025 (EST) − − :'''Update: [[Putin]]: [[NATO war in Ukraine|Ukraine conflict]] could end in weeks,''' [https://www.rt.com/russia/611796-putin-ukraine-months-sponsors/] '''[[Zelensky]] lacks legitimacy to sign any deal.''' [https://www.rt.com/russia/611799-zelensky-talks-no-legitimacy/] '''Zelensky Must Go.''' − − Fact check: Trump's WWII rewrite – Russia didn’t just help, THEY WON − − 1. The Soviet Union played the decisive role in defeating Nazi Germany on WWII's Eastern Front, suffering over 20 million casualties, including 8.7 million military deaths. The Soviets inflicted approximately 80% of Germany’s total casualties (around 7.4 million). − − 2. The US entered WWII on December 7, 1941, after the Pearl Harbor attack, while the Soviets had already been fighting Germany for six months. − − 3. The Soviets tied down most of Germany's forces, winning key battles like Stalingrad (1942-43) and Berlin (1945), which led to Nazi surrender. − − 4. The US provided aid via the Lend-Lease Act, but it was the Red Army that did the heavy lifting, capturing Berlin and ending the war in Europe. − − [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 15:05, January 22, 2025 (EST) − − Trump, who stated that Russia's economy is failing, should take a look at the facts: − − 1. Russia has overtaken Japan to become the 4th LARGEST ECONOMY in the world (PPP). − − 2. Russia’s GDP grew by 4.1% in Q2 2024, OUTPERFORMING GERMANY, which saw a 0.3% contraction in 2023. − − 3. Russia’s unemployment rate hit a HISTORIC LOW of 2.3%, compared to 3.6% in the U.S. and over 11% in Spain. − − 4. Russia’s budget deficit is just 1.7% of GDP, far LOWER THAN THE US at 5.8%. − − :As to the threat of increased sanctions - bring it on. Sanctions, like Trump tariffs (or economic restrictions by any name), have only made Russia stronger. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 15:14, January 22, 2025 (EST) − − :Much of what Trump is saying now is "bravado" or "braggadocio" - he sounds like [[Khruschev]]. What is being done is quite different - "US aviation has sharply reduced flights to Rzeszow (Poland). According to the Flightradar portal, since January 20, only four aircraft have arrived in Poland: two from the American air bases of [[Ramstein]] and Wiesbaden in Germany, and two more from the US bases Wright-Patterson and Dover....the United States have withdrawn all their applications for the transit of goods in the interests of Kyiv through the airports of Rzeszow and Constanta (Romania) and Varna (Bulgaria). At NATO bases in Europe, all shipments to Ukraine have been suspended and closed. According to foreign military analysts, this is on the order of several thousand tons of weapons and equipment." − ::One of your own favorite sources that you have cited on MPR several times says about these NATO shipments being supposedly suspended to Ukraine: "The below is not yet corroborate, but it claims that all shipments to Ukraine have been suspended".[https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/trump-storms-out-the-gate-but-already?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1351274&post_id=155115182&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=9fiuo&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email] So this appears to be a rumor. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:23, January 22, 2025 (EST) − :This is in keeping with Trump's pledge to take steps to end the war in 24 hours. These are good faith or confidence building measures. To remove these changes now will only cost more money, which Trump would have to ask Congress for. − :Putin's not stupid; he knows Trump is not going to become another neocon war hawk, leading the charge to ask Congress for more money for more [[perpetual war]] ([[Tulsi Gabbard]] would resign first). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 15:27, January 22, 2025 (EST) − − ::Trump's in the same place Nixon was - elected as the peace candidate but doesn't want to be seen as losing a war. So he's going to have to swallow a bitter pill, like Biden in Afghanistan, and cut n run at some point. As Trump says, "NO MORE LIVES SHOULD BE LOST". He can begin by cutting Zelensky loose. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 15:37, January 22, 2025 (EST) − :::What percentage of Russia's GDP is related to war related spending? Are there any problems with Russia's economy such as high inflation and rising company bankruptcies? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:50, January 22, 2025 (EST) − − :::What percentage of the US's GDP is related to war related spending? Are there any problems with the US's economy such as high inflation and rising company bankruptcies? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 15:55, January 22, 2025 (EST) − :::::In 2022, the United States spent 3.45% of its GDP on defense.[https://www.google.com/search?q=us+defense+spending+as+a+percentage+of+gdp&oq=us+defense+spending+as+a+per&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgBEAAYgAQyBggCEEUYOTIICAMQABgWGB4yCAgEEAAYFhgeMggIBRAAGBYYHjIICAYQABgWGB4yCAgHEAAYFhgeMggICBAAGBYYHjIGCAkQLhhA0gEJMjA0ODdqMGoxqAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8] "Russia is hiking state spending on national defence by a quarter in 2025 to 6.3% of gross domestic product (GDP), the highest levels since the Cold War, according to draft budget documents published on Monday."[https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-hikes-national-defence-spending-by-23-2025-2024-09-30/] − − :::::Inflation in the USA is much lower than in Russia which is why there is not a rash of butter stealing like what is happening in Russia (See: [https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/25/russias-inflation-is-so-bad-that-people-are-stealing-butter.html#:~:text=A%20standard%20200g%20stick%20of,rampant%20price%20rises%20in%20Russia. Russian food prices are soaring — but no one dares blame Putin and the war] and [https://www.newsweek.com/russians-resort-stealing-butter-amid-shortages-1976575 Russians Resort to Stealing Butter Amid Shortages]). − − :::::"Russia’s central bank last month hiked interest rates to 21% — their highest level in more than 20 years — but the high rates have shown few signs of dampening inflation so far."[https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/25/russias-inflation-is-so-bad-that-people-are-stealing-butter.html#:~:text=A%20standard%20200g%20stick%20of,rampant%20price%20rises%20in%20Russia.] − − :::::In 2025, it doesn't look like US company bankruptcies are going to go up due to a favorable economy under Trump being expected (See: [https://www.marketwatch.com/story/another-bullish-call-for-stocks-in-2025-wells-fargo-raises-s-p-500-target-on-strong-economy-trumps-policy-changes-455d76e6 Another bullish call for stocks in 2025. Wells Fargo raises S&P 500 target on strong economy, Trump’s policy changes]). On the other hand, Russian company bankruptcies may certainly rise (See: [https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/11/11/russia-faces-a-wave-of-bankruptcies-as-borrowing-costs-skyrocket-a86981 Russia Faces a Wave of Bankruptcies as Borrowing Costs Skyrocket]). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:18, January 22, 2025 (EST) − − ::::::Big deal. − − :*[https://www.kitklarenberg.com/p/its-official-us-abandoning-ukraine It's Official: US Abandoning Ukraine], Kit Klarenberg − − :*[https://news.antiwar.com/2025/01/20/a-ukrainian-victory-was-never-bidens-goal-time-magazine/ A Ukrainian Victory Was Never Biden’s Goal: Time Magazine], Dave DeCamp − − :*[https://time.com/7207661/bidens-ukraine-win-zelensky-loss/ Why Biden’s Ukraine Win Was Zelensky’s Loss], ''[[Time magazine]]'' − − :[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 16:32, January 22, 2025 (EST) − ::JD Vance: "My whole argument with the Russia-Ukraine (war) is that Russia should have never invaded Ukraine, a lot of innocent people are being killed... Our interest is in peace. But part of that is motivated by my view that Ukraine is not nearly as important to us as other regions of the world, right? Just putting my cards on the table," Vance told Tim Dillon, an American stand-up comedian, who questioned Vance on various topics, including those related to foreign policy."[https://kyivindependent.com/jd-vance-says-taiwan-more-vital-to-us-than-ukraine-due-to-key-role-in-chip-production/] − − ::Vance is correct. Ukraine is not of vital importance to the USA compared to other regions. − − ::Anyways, I agree with Trump that Putin should make a deal as its economy is showing strain. And Russia doesn't need more land as it is struggling to defend its big country due in part to [https://decline-of-russia.blogspot.com/2024/11/russias-demographic-crisis.html its demographic crisis]. "Britannica explained that a failed state is the one that “cannot protect its national boundaries.” April 26, 2023 head of the Russian Committee of defense of the Russian State Duma suggested that Russian citizens should be mobilized to protect Russian borders acknowledging that Russia has no resources for that, comparing the current inability of the state to the previous mighty USSR." - [https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/05/03/russia-has-failed-as-a-state/ Russia has failed as a state], Modern Diplomacy, 2023. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:47, January 22, 2025 (EST) − − :::Old news for domestic consumption. − − :::[[NATO]] lost. − − :::[[Trump]] is not going to escalate war with Russia. − − :::If you want to understand the issues to bring the Russians to the table, read [[David T. Pyne]]: [https://dpyne.substack.com/p/how-an-end-to-the-war-in-ukraine How an end to the war in Ukraine could be achieved in days, not months]. No amount of American braggadocio or bluster will change that. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 17:17, January 22, 2025 (EST) − *Regarding history / past - no doubt about glorious Russian part in WW2. Great soldiers (including sizable Jews: half a million!), fought heroically. We, the US got involved much later, of course.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 17:31, January 22, 2025 (EST) − ::[https://youtu.be/FeYhd6uNMpo A Soldier of the Unknown War]. An hour well spent. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 18:19, January 22, 2025 (EST) − ::::Remember how Trump told Israel to wrap up the war in Gaza? Well, history may be rhyming as far as the war in Ukraine. ''Times of India'' video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMrKCImd91c Trump’s Warning ‘Forces’ Putin To Dial China’s Xi; Talks Ending Russia-Ukraine War? Inside Details] and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2Sm9cqy8G8 Trump & China Drop BAD NEWS on Russia over Ukraine War]. − − ::::Question: Is Trump's upcoming tariff pressure on China causing China to put pressure on Russia to end the war in Ukraine? Trump [https://www.rt.com/news/606884-trump-divide-russia-china/ said he was going to un-unite the China-Russia partnership]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:38, January 22, 2025 (EST) − − :::::You are sorely delusional if you think Putin can be intimidated or threatened. − − :::::The Putin-Xi phone call was scheduled in mid-December, and readouts from both countries express solidarity. − − :::::You evidentially still have learned nothing by reading and following [[Western]] [[globalist]] [[media]] and [[propaganda]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 17:45, January 22, 2025 (EST) − − ::::::Here's the problem [[the West]] faces: the [[Russian]]s have been lied to and deceived so much by the West, a written [[treaty]] or promises are meaningless at this point. Trump cannot personally guarantee anything beyond 4 years. And Russia is not interested in a four year pause so NATO/Ukraine can rearm. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 17:53, January 22, 2025 (EST) − Russia is the junior partner in the China-Russia partnership. If you think the atheist Xi Jinping is going to be loyal and put Russia above himself if he is enough hot water (For example, a worsening Chinese economy and threats of higher tariffs from Trump. China is already facing multiple economic crisis such as deflation, a property crisis, high youth unemployment, etc.), you are fooling yourself. − − Also, I agree with the billionaire Donald Trump concerning Russia's economy over your view of Russia's economy and Russia's Central Bank recently set a sky-high interest rate. [https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2024/10/16/russian-ceo-blames-interest-rate-volatility-on-central-bank-governor-being-a-woman-en-news Russian CEO blames interest rate volatility on Central Bank governor being a woman], "Andrey Kostin was asked in an interview with state-owned TV channel Rossiya 24 whether the Russian Central Bank’s key interest rate could reach 25% next year and responded that it was difficult to predict because the process was “led by women”. “Yes, when women lead the process, almost anything is possible,” he said." [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:07, January 22, 2025 (EST) − :Russia's economy may not imminently collapse, but to pretend Russia does not have significant economic problems is delusional. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:17, January 22, 2025 (EST) − − ::Look, you're just spouting off on things you have no interest in or understanding of, and confusing young readers who genuinely wish to learn. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 18:21, January 22, 2025 (EST) − − ::For the amount of bytes you expend, and time wasted [[spamming]], it makes as much sense as [[Biden]] calling [[J6]]ers "insurrectionists" while at the same time saying if you want to have an insurrection, you need [[F-16]]s. It's not worth the time and trouble reading or responding to. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 18:28, January 22, 2025 (EST) − :::Since you are not a mind reader, I find your response wanting. The fact remains that many Russia business people are struggling under variable rate business loans and sky high interest rates and the Russian company bankruptcy rate is rising (See: [https://meduza.io/en/feature/2024/11/08/as-corporate-debts-in-russia-balloon-under-rising-interest-rates-a-wave-of-bankruptcies-could-be-on-the-horizon#:~:text=Officially%2C%20corporate%20bankruptcies%20in%20Russia,to%20delay%20servicing%20their%20debts. As corporate debts in Russia balloon under rising interest rates, a wave of bankruptcies could be on the horizon]). − ::::You'rw right, I'm not a mind reader. I read your pointless, meaningless [[spam]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 18:55, January 22, 2025 (EST) − :::Trump is right. Russia should cut a deal as quickly as possible as its economy is having a lot of problems. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) − − ::::[https://youtu.be/ohHJ8pyKofw There you again]. I'm not going to play this stupid game with you of tit-for-tat irrelevant, off topic [[spam]] to make some meaningless point in your imagination. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 18:52, January 22, 2025 (EST) − :::::Trump has been prescient about many things. Donald Trump: “He has to make a deal. I think he is destroying Russia by not making a deal. I think Russia is going to be in big trouble.”[https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/breaking-donald-trump-issues-ultimatum-34533760] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:56, January 22, 2025 (EST) − − :Educate yourself, and don't spam: [https://karlof1.substack.com/p/putin-reports-preliminary-2024-economic Putin Reports Preliminary 2024 Economic Results and General 2025 Outlook]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 18:59, January 22, 2025 (EST) − ::Putin is a terrible forecaster. Putin promised that Russia could have a [[Guns and butter economic concept|guns and butter economy]] and that prediction failed big time. − :::Oh, you think Putin pulled it out of his butt, and this isn't the work of Russian bureaucrats, economists, and the [[World Bank]]? You haven't even read it. − − :::The more you post, the more you discredit yourself. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 19:11, January 22, 2025 (EST) − − ::Russian President Vladimir Putin claimed that Russia's war economy was well balanced to supply both guns and butter, but the price of butter itself is now soaring as surging inflation distorts parts of the economy. The price of a block of butter has risen by 25.7 per cent since December, according to the state statistics service.[https://www.newsweek.com/russians-resort-stealing-butter-amid-shortages-1976575] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:05, January 22, 2025 (EST) − − ::*[https://slaynews.com/news/russian-military-blows-whistle-bill-gates-bioterrorism-reduce-population/ Russian Military Blows Whistle on Bill Gates’ ‘Bioterrorism’ Plot to ‘Reduce Population’]. Hmm, you think the rest of the planet and [[MAGA]] consider this as "Russian propaganda"? − :::C'mon now - you've been an ardent proponent of [[Biden]] [[foreign policy]] & the [[Russia Russia Russia hoax]] for 3 solid years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 19:07, January 22, 2025 (EST) − ::::Your bad habit of gossiping while badly losing debates endures. Nevertheless, I voted for Trump each time he won an election. As much as I hate to do it, I declare victory! The billionaire Trump is right about Russia's economy and you are wrong. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:11, January 22, 2025 (EST) − :::::Look at the facts: You have been an ardent proponent of [[Biden]] [[foreign policy]] & the [[Russia Russia Russia hoax]] for 3 years now, until [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:Conservative&diff=prev&oldid=2102033 you started to walk it back this] morning. − − :::::And this after I personally advised you on the phone 3 years ago to avoid going down this path. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 19:17, January 22, 2025 (EST) − ::::::As a person who voted for Trump each time he was elected, I am bullish on Trump's second term in office and the possibility that JD Vance will be elected after him. − − ::::::In addition, concerning Russia's overall future, I still agree with the international relations scholar John Mearsheimer who predicted the war in Ukraine. John Mearsheimer wrote: "Russia is a declining power, and it will only get weaker with time."[https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/russia-fsu/2014-08-18/why-ukraine-crisis-west-s-fault] − − ::::::Next, I have walked back nothing. China and Russia are going to wane in power and influence and Trump will accelerate this matter. So I see no reason to be inordinately focused on the machinations of declining powers. “Winners have no interest or association in the opinions, actions or affairs of losers.” - Jeffrey Fry. Now my user page focuses more on a very great power - namely, Jesus and the kingdom of God! − − ::::::[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPLEAWsX0qk Lester Lewis & Singing Rose Ministry - Winnaman]. "I am on the winning side, the winning side, the winning side. I am on the winning side every time." - Dr. Lester Lewis. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:43, January 22, 2025 (EST) − − So, while you are busy [[spamming]] your nonsense, you are missing the story (and impeding my efforts) about Trump draining the swamp: − − *'''''[[WaPo]]:'' [[National Security Advisor]] [[Mike Waltz]] sends home''' dozens of employees responsible for [[Ukraine]], [[Iran]] and [[North Korea]], suspending them from work. [https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/01/22/trump-waltz-national-security-council-officials/] − − *'''[[President Trump]] restructures [[National Security Council]]''' and removes [[IC]] influence. [https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/01/21/president-trump-restructures-the-national-security-council-and-removes-ic-influence/] The real reason [[Mike Turner]] was ousted from [[HPSCI]]. [https://dailycaller.com/2025/01/21/mike-turner-intel-committee-fisa-702-mike-johnson/] − − *'''Reports: [[Pentagon]] has fired and suspended everyone''' who was responsible for [[NATO war in Ukraine|Ukraine]] and [[Ukraine aid]]. [https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1881826337780031865][https://t.me/llordofwar/409924][https://avia-pro.net/news/v-pentagone-uvoleny-i-otstraneny-vse-kto-otvechal-za-ukrainu-i-voennuyu-pomoshch-kievu#google_vignette] − − *'''Kit Klarenberg: It's official: [[US]] abandoning [[Ukraine]].''' [https://www.kitklarenberg.com/p/its-official-us-abandoning-ukraine] A Ukrainian victory was never [[Biden]]'s goal: Time magazine. [https://scheerpost.com/2025/01/22/a-ukrainian-victory-was-never-bidens-goal-time-magazine/][https://time.com/7207661/bidens-ukraine-win-zelensky-loss/] − − It was [[Alexander Vindman]] & [[Eric Ciaramella]] who got Trump impeached the first time. Trump has to get rid of all those like-minded swamp creatures first before he can engage Putin. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 19:54, January 22, 2025 (EST) − :I am impeding nothing. You should just agree with Trump that [https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5100263-trump-threatens-tariffs-russia-ukraine-war/ Putin is ruining Russia with his ridiculous war in Ukraine] and that he should make a deal quick in light of the big problems it is causing the Russian economy. And Trump and I appear to agree that Putin's invasion of Ukraine in February of 2022 was a foolish decision. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:00, January 22, 2025 (EST) − − ::"Trump said Putin couldn't be happy with the slow progress of his war against Ukraine — nearly three years after he ordered an... assault, and 11 years after disguised Russian troops first entered Ukraine's Crimean peninsula. "He’s grinding it out. Most people thought it would last about one week and now you’re into three years. It is not making him look good," Trump said... "Russia’s bigger, they have more soldiers to lose but that’s no way to run a country," he added."[https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russia-ukraine-war-destroying/] − − ::Trump agrees with me that Putin is not running Russia well. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:10, January 22, 2025 (EST) − − :::You indeed are [[trolling]], posting redundant [[spam]], and impeding my efforts to create content and write about the late breaking news of Donald Trump draining the swamp, so I post the source links here. Show some courtesy and save your trolling nonsense about Russian inflation & bankruptcies for some other time in an appropriate place. − − *'''Axios: [https://www.axios.com/2025/01/22/trump-national-security-council-civil-servants The Trump administration is screening the loyalty of approximately 160 career civil servants assigned to the National Security Council.]''' [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 20:08, January 22, 2025 (EST) − − :::I already complained to Andy just now about your [[trolling]] and pointlessly wasting my time. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 20:13, January 22, 2025 (EST) − ::::Andy is a very big supporter of Trump - just like his mother. He can't be happy that you are siding with Putin and not agreeing with Trump that Putin should cut a deal quick and end this ridiculous war as soon as possible. And he can't be happy that you are not taking Trump's side that the war in Ukraine is very significantly hurting the Russian economy. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:22, January 22, 2025 (EST) − − *[https://sonar21.com/cia-busy-polishing-its-ukraine-legacy/ CIA Busy Polishing Its Ukraine Legacy]. − :''You know the end is nearing in Ukraine when the CIA — i.e., the Director and unnamed US government officials — start dishing on what-we did-in-Ukraine-that-was-so-great. The CIA storyline is simple, this was not our fault. It would be hilarious if this was just a bungled coup where no one died. But that is not the case. There are more than a million dead, mostly Ukrainian, as a result of CIA activities, starting with the Maidan of February 2024'' [sic; should read ''2014'']. − − :[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 22:33, January 22, 2025 (EST) − − *[[Korybko]]: ''[[Steve Bannon]] warned earlier this week that Ukraine could turn into Trump's Vietnam if he doesn’t swiftly end the conflict like he promised, recalling how the precedent of [[Nixon]] ultimately taking ownership of [[LBJ]]'s war might lead to Trump taking ownership of Biden’s. According to him, a trap is being set for Trump by the [[military-industrial complex]], the Europeans, and some misguided friends like new special envoy to Ukraine and Russia [[Keith Kellogg]].'' [https://korybko.substack.com/p/polands-president-is-trying-to-trick] − − :[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 01:18, January 23, 2025 (EST) − − ::Looks like Trump may own the [[war]] now: − ::*''"The oil refinery in Ryazan, Russia, is under massive attack by Ukrainian drones. [https://t.me/BellumActaNews/139451] − − ::*''"drones attacked Smolensk [Belarus]. The targets, preliminary, were the Smolensk aircraft plant and the Yartsevo oil refinery. One of the drones hit a residential building, starting a strong fire. The fire engulfed six floors (video 1). ▪️About 1:34 the UAV fell near a clinical hospital in Smolensk, writes Mash. Another high-rise building was damaged. At 2 a.m., power and water went out in several houses [https://t.me/llordofwar/409571][https://t.me/ForeignAgentIntel/13401] − − ::*''"The enemy is trying to break through to Moscow: explosions in Ramenskoye, Podolsk, Kolomna and Shchelkovo ▪️UAV attacks flying towards Moscow were repelled by air defense forces in Kolomna, Ramenskoye, Podolsk and Shchelkovo, said the mayor of the capital Sergei Sobyanin. ▪️There is no information about destruction or casualties at the sites where the debris fell. Emergency services specialists work in incident areas. ❗️Also, the attack on Ryazan has been going on for more than an hour, more than 20 explosions have occurred]] [https://t.me/llordofwar/410531] − − ::IMO, Russian general Staff may be considering and recommending an [[Oreshnik]] retaliatory strike now. Hopefully, within the territory of Ukraine [although an Oreshnik could take out a Supercarrier]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 18:31, January 23, 2025 (EST) − :::And per [[CIA]]/[[Pentagon]] thinking, they may want to provoke an Oreshnik strike - to learn more about the weapon. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 18:34, January 23, 2025 (EST) − − ===Truce by Easter, peace by May 9=== − '''Update:''' Anonymous sources familiar with the matter tell me the Russians will demand new [[Ukrainian]] elections before peace talks. [[Zelensky]]'s term of office expired in May 2023, so no negotiations or agreements can [[legal]]ly be conducted or concluded with [[Zelensky]]. Zelensky, with a 16% approcal rating, will lose those elections. Front runners now are [[Zaluzhny]] & [[Arestovich]]. (Both have been exiled outside the country). − − Bottomline: The longer Zelensky clings to power, the more people will die. It would be best for him to resign immediately. − − This is what is likely to develop in the 100 days since [[Trump]] broke his promise to end the war in 24 hours. − − In a side note, I speculate Gen. [[Keith Kellogg]] will be the Special Guest of Honor at the [[May 9 Victory Day]] Parade in [[Red Square]], 109 days after Trump was inaugurated. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 22:09, January 26, 2025 (EST) − − Update: [https://strana.today/news/478985-peremirie-k-paskhe-mir-k-9-maja-v-politkruhakh-obsuzhdaetsja-100-dnevnyj-plan-trampa.html Truce by Easter, peace by May 9. Trump's "100-day plan" is being discussed in political circles]. (only [[Zelensky]] has to be disposed of first. I suspect [[Trump]] might relish this, given Zelensky & [[Crowdstrike]]'s role in the [[Russiagate]]).[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 03:07, January 27, 2025 (EST) − − Looks like the public is being prepped for the inevitable: − − *[[Ukrainian Gestapo]] chief [[Kirill Budanov]]: [https://t.me/glenndiesen/608 Ukraine may cease to exist by summer without peace talks]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 14:01, January 27, 2025 (EST) − − *[[Zerohedge]]: [https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russian-forces-officially-seize-last-strategic-city-southern-donbas-region Russian Forces Officially Seize Last Strategic City In Southern Donbas Region]. − − *The USA protects borders from Ukrainian refugees. The American Citizenship and Immigration Service announced the suspension of the U4U program (United for Ukraine), allowing Ukrainian citizens and their closest relatives to come to the United States for two years. "The US Citizenship and Immigration Service suspends the acceptance of the form I-134A, the online provision and declaration of financial support", the department said. The solution is related to the decree of Trump on the day of the inauguration on the protection of the borders of the USA. the new york times. That there are 150 thousand Ukrainian refugees in America. [https://t.me/llordofwar/411782] − :''This item should be MPR news, but because of the [[Russophobia]], [[hate]], and support for [[Biden]] [[foreign policy]] [[User:Conservative]] has engendered among readers for 3 years now, it would be too confusing.'' [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 02:15, January 28, 2025 (EST) − − *Trump to reverse sanctions on 'Pro-Putin' [[Hungary]]. [https://youtu.be/E1CcBnVm0b8] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 03:04, January 28, 2025 (EST) − − *[[CNN]]: [[Saudi Arabia]]: [[Trump]]'s Key to Ending the [[Russia Ukraine War]]. [https://youtu.be/qwwn9FvDUCA] − :Here's the problem with this bluster: crashing the profitability of oil producers runs counter to Trump's vow to bring back US oil production. The Russians are not that [[stupid]] to not see through this bluff and bravado aimed at US domestic news consumers and the [[MAGA]] crowd. The danger here again is, Putin and the Russians are taking Trump less serious the longer he stalls, and the more he continues attacking the [[Russian Federation]] with [[missile]]s. − − :The longer Trump drags his feet, Trump & the [[United States]] inherit the [[sin]]s and [[war crimes]] of the [[Biden regime]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 22:04, February 1, 2025 (EST) − CNN − − == Hegseth seems likely to be confirmed. Hopefully == − − As of now, I think he has the votes, [https://nypost.com/2025/01/23/us-news/pete-hegseth-nomination-clears-key-senate-hurdle-as-two-republicans-signal-opposition/][[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 18:11, January 23, 2025 (EST) − − :Are they going to vote today? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 18:20, January 23, 2025 (EST) − − == Tarrio is on the outside == − − I see a political future for this man. Senator Tarrio? Governor Tarrio? Check it out: "[https://news.yahoo.com/news/ex-proud-boys-leader-enrique-014910687.html Ex-Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio back home after Trump's Jan. 6 clemency]." [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 07:27, January 24, 2025 (EST) − − == Covid: Conservatives vindicated: CIA leans toward China Wuhan leak theory == − − https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/cia-now-favors-lab-leak-theory-on-origins-of-covid-19-eff4e67c Better late than never. But still, way too late. − − :Yah but they rate it "low confidence". − − :There's a double edge to this story: It fulfills [[Ratcliffe]]'s promise to declassify on Day One, but it also plays into the hands of Sinophobes and [[warmonger]]s who want to ignore [[Fauci]]'s crimes who funded the research. Best that can be said is, it likely was an accident and negligence, and not a deliberate Act of War. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 11:09, January 26, 2025 (EST) − − ::It all seems to be. AFTER FBI statements... − − ''In doing so, the CIA has now joined the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Energy Department in identifying a laboratory mishap in Wuhan, China, as the probable source of the Covid virus. It has killed more than 1.2 million Americans and over seven million people worldwide.''[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 11:16, January 26, 2025 (EST) − − :::The big crime remains in [[Washington, D.C.]], and not in China. The [[Wuhan]] leak was probably an accident, the immediate mishandling was negligent and exposed the [[corruption]] in the Chinese system, but the deliberate politicization in the [[United States]] to take advantage of the crisis to thwart [[Trump]]'s re-election was [[criminal]]. − − :::The 1.2 million deaths statement still obscures many facts and seems dubious; then we have the problem of the [[covid vaccine]], which is an entirely separate issue. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 11:24, January 26, 2025 (EST) − − :::Ultimately, if the truth can ever be told, more people likely will die from the vaccine than from the infection itself. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 11:38, January 26, 2025 (EST) − − ==Columbian coffee== − IMO, it is a mistake to trumpet the threat of [[tariff]]s on [[Columbia]]n [[coffee]] in MPR, cause the tariffs can still be imposed any time after [[Valentine's Day]], [https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/01/26/beyond-perfect-timing-colombia-refuses-repatriation-flights-what-trump-does-is-beyond-epic/] leading to skyrocketing coffee prices in the USA. But some editors love dining on crow, so let's wait and see what happens. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 00:16, January 27, 2025 (EST) − [[File:Colombia Caves to Gringo El Presidente.jpeg|right|400px|thumb|Colombia Caves to Gringo El Presidente.]] − Updates: Colombia says “we will look for other countries, you can’t treat us like inferior race” [https://t.me/AussieCossack/31846] − − :hmmm, wow. I guess [[tariff]]s may be [[racist]]; − − The President of Columbia Gustavo Petro Is Offering HIS Presidential Plane to Repatriate Colombis Returning Home. − − :Wow. Why would they be in such a hurry? Guess we haven't heard the last of it. − − :(Incidentally, there is a very high number, one of the highest from any country, of Columbian [[mercenaries]] working for the [[CIA]], [[NATO]], and the [[SBU]] in [[Ukraine]]. [https://t.me/thisiswarchannel/3005] Even female mercenaries. [https://t.me/AussieCossack/31683] I guess the pay there is better than anything they can get in Columbia. Don't worry, however; the US taxpayer isn't on the hook for sending the bags of fertilizer back home. Mercenaries, under [[international law]], typically are shot on the spot and disposed of right there.).[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 01:49, January 27, 2025 (EST) − − MPR is not a random collection of links that always go to the top. Each item is part of continuity, or narrative construction. − − Furthermore, an editor who contributes must also commit to follow up news, building and updating the blue links that link from MPR on a timely basis. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 13:25, January 27, 2025 (EST) − − ::[[User:Conservative]]: − − :::Don't [[spam]]. − − :::Discuss rationally, and learn. − − :::MPR is not a place to park random [[sensationalism]] headlines that catch your eye. − − :::This is a [[policy]] discussion. DO NOT SPAM. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 14:12, January 27, 2025 (EST) − − ::A personal observation: IMHO, in the larger scheme of things in the coming trade wars, the 10 hour trade war with Columbia is not a time for chest thumping. It was kinda like watching a male [[transgender]] boxer beat the hell out of a girl in a girl's sport. The other shoe is yet to drop. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 15:12, January 27, 2025 (EST) − − :Update: [[Gustavo Petro]]'s handling of trade conflict sparks domestic political instability in Columbia. [https://colombiaone.com/2025/01/28/colombia-liberal-party-government-coalition-petro/] − :Update: Petro: “we will look for other countries, you can’t treat us like inferior race”. China's ambassador to Colombia: "we are at the best moment of our diplomatic relations…". [https://deepnewz.com/china/china-s-ambassador-to-colombia-declares-best-moment-45-year-diplomatic-relations-679a843a] − ::Oh, you think it's that easy to threaten and humiliate other countries [https://princetalleyrand.substack.com/p/how-to-kowtow-32f to get them to kowtow?] Only a [[fool]] would think so. Yah, I'm talking to you Mr. DeMyer. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 21:39, January 28, 2025 (EST) − :Update: Petro's daughter threatens to arrest and deport an [[American]] [[pedophile]] in Columbia for each Columbian deported. [https://potustoast.com/colombian-presidents-daughter-threatens-president-trump-for-every-colombian-deported/] That would be a lot of American pedophiles, evidently. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 21:43, January 28, 2025 (EST) − − == 'God created people to love' [[holocaust]] survivor at UN == − − '''See the 'spark of humanity' in an evil era - diabolical low bar...''' − From : − [https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/402977 'God created people to love, not to hate:' Holocaust survivor addresses UN]. (1.27.2025). − − − Below is the full speech, which Marianne Miller delivered accompanied by her four children and seven grandchildren today at the [[UN]]: − − <blockquote> − “My name is Marianne Miller, and I am a Holocaust survivor. I represent the remaining Holocaust survivors, who are getting older, weaker, and sicker, leaving us day by day. I was a baby during the Holocaust, but I can still say it, clear and loud: − − "I have been there. − − "My parents, Alfred and Violetta Nobel, were a young couple deeply in love. Before my father was taken to a labor camp, my mother wanted to become pregnant. My father was against it. ‘You don’t bring a child into a world where sure death is waiting for them everywhere,’ he said. But my mother, so in love, replied, ‘Maybe one of us will stay alive, and they will have a memory of the other.’ − − "Under these conditions, I came into the world – a world where death awaited me at every corner. − − "Budapest, 1944. A freezing December night. Mothers are marching with their babies in deadly silence, heading toward the railway station. The destination: Auschwitz. − − <u>"Then, something unprecedented happened. With a sudden movement, my mother tore off her yellow star and ran out of the line, holding me in her arms. She hid under a gate, thinking no one had seen her. − − "But a young Hungarian Nazi chased after her, shouting and aiming his rifle at her chest. ‘How dare you take off the yellow star?’ he roared. ‘Now I’m going to kill your child and make you watch. Then you’ll go back to the line without your baby.’ − − "There was no point in begging for mercy. All my mother had was a thin golden wedding ring. She held it out to him, saying: ‘Look! Look! You kill people and take their jewelry, <font color=red>but this ring is different – it is not covered in blood. It shines because you didn’t murder anyone for it. Take it. There is a blessing on it. You gave life to a mother and her child. Take it!</font>’ − − "Maybe, in that one moment, he found a spark of humanity within himself. He didn’t follow her. He let her run, and we were saved. − </u> − − "My father’s story is no less remarkable. − − "Taken to the hunger camp of Bergen-Belsen, he survived on one slice of bread per week. He had the willpower to divide it into seven pieces, eating one each day. At liberation, he weighed only 35 kilos – the weight of a child. − − "Most of my family was not as fortunate. Many were shot into the Danube River. My mother’s sister Nicolet, a partisan, was executed. My cousin Gabor, just 13 years old, was killed – he could have become a world-famous poet. − − "Today, I stand here having lost my husband, Yoel, two months ago. − − "He was my best friend for 58 years. As a child, he survived the Terezin concentration camp, becoming a father figure to his baby brother. − − "Last April, I was honored to lead the March of the Living in Budapest and Auschwitz. I was deeply shaken by the mountains of shoes, glasses, and hair left behind. Six million lives were brutally taken simply for being Jewish. − − "I came here today with my children and grandchildren – my personal answer to Hitler. − − "Antisemitism is lifting its ugly head again across the world. We must remember: God created people to love, not to hate. God wants to be proud of mankind, not ashamed of it. − − "I represent today the six million Holocaust victims who were murdered just because they were Jewish. I demand the world remember what happened only 80 years ago. − − "Never. Never. Never, let it happen again. − </blockquote> − − (See spiritual [[Resistance: They Fought Back]]) − − [[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 16:02, January 27, 2025 (EST) − ::Thank you D for this very HUMAN story. As tragically sad this uniquely dark chapter in human history is.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 18:07, January 27, 2025 (EST) − − :::I read that antisemitic incidents in the USA more than tripled since October 2023. Antisemitism is rising in Europe too. This partly explains this stat: [https://www.timesofisrael.com/over-29000-immigrants-have-moved-to-israel-since-october-7-wzo-says/ Over 29,000 immigrants have moved to Israel since October 7, WZO says]. − − :I hope the farther we go from the Gaza situation being settled, the more antisemitism will wane. The public often has a short memory span. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:40, January 27, 2025 (EST) − − ===Worth mentioning, the rise is antisemitism is mainly by [[Muslims]]=== − Such as (1) in [https://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2025/01/adl-antisemitism-global-survey-shows.html?m=1 Muslim countries] (w/o even counting [[Pakistan]] & [[Syria]]), − [[File:Adl index 2024 (1).jpg|thumb|ADL antisemitism global survey shows Muslim countries are still the most antisemitic - and getting worse]] − − and − − (2) incitement by Islamic groups in non-Muslim countries have also contributed. Such as the SJP and other [[Muslim Brotherhood]] linked "activists" -- the core of "protests." − − And Germans, for instance, just as they distanced themselves from [[WW2]] evil, came the 1 Million [[Arab]] immigrants influx. [https://www.hoover.org/research/islamism-and-immigration-germany-and-european-context The post-war efforts to “come to terms with the Nazi past” and to reject the legacy of antisemitism represent one of the main features of modern Germany’s path toward liberal democracy. Yet precisely this German refusal of antisemitism has become a point of conflict with Muslim immigration and assimilation. Many immigrants arrive from countries where antisemitic attitudes are widespread, and these attitudes have fueled some of the anti-Israel protests in Germany]. − − And: − [https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/antisemitism-among-muslim-migrants-unsettles-a-germany-haunted-by-the-holocaust-ff359e73 Antisemitism Among Muslim Migrants Unsettles a Germany Haunted by the Holocaust]. − − Let's not forget what [https://www.jns.org/mein-kampf-in-gaza-and-beyond/ areas, the highest percentage of Hitler admiration] has been at, in the last decades. No one is born a racist. It's all about education (one look at their textbooks or/and ar memri.org, palwatch.org how they groom the young, shows what the M.E. conflict is really about). − You're right that seeing war results does not help. Especially when radical left uses it so efficiently for its own overall agenda. It's very easy to blame the non-Arab side and very difficult to expose how Islamists terror regimes/groups cynically use civilians VS perception of "innocent", seeing deaths. − Despite [https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/11/01/hamas-officials-admit-its-strategy-is-to-use-palestinian-civilians-as-human-shields/ own admission], and accusation by [[Palestinian Authority| "Palestinian" govt]] itself [https://palwatch.org/page/36841 Palestinian Authority: Hamas disguised as civilians caused civilian deaths and destruction of Gaza] and despite that − [https://www.newsweek.com/israel-has-created-new-standard-urban-warfare-why-will-no-one-admit-it-opinion-1883286 Israel Has Created a New Standard for Urban Warfare. Why Will No One Admit It?] And the final results Jan/2025 "civilian/combatant ratio: ~1:1" prove that. [https://x.com/Aizenberg55/status/1879905170856829179][https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GhbCoQnWYAAYHZM?format=jpg&name=900x900] − [[File:Combatant ratio- ~1-1.jpg|thumb|[[Oct 7 war]]. 1.20.25: Civilian/combatant ratio: ~1:1]] − May God help us all.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 19:13, January 27, 2025 (EST) − :[[WaPo]]: Trump administration has stopped all funding to the Palestinian Authority security forces. [https://t.me/BellumActaNews/140743] − {{clear}} − − ==[[Gay marriage|Gay married]] [[Trump]] Treasury Secretary [[Scott Bessent]] confirmed by [[Senate]]== − I'll leave coverage of this news to [[User:Conservative]], [https://therightscoop.com/breaking-scott-bessent-confirmed-as-president-trumps-new-treasury-secretary/] who appears to be an effective cheerleader on these issues. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 18:11, January 27, 2025 (EST) − − *[https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-man-arrested-at-capitol-with-molotov-cocktails-wanted-to-kill-treasury-sec-scott-bessent-police?utm_campaign=64483 BREAKING: Man arrested at Capitol with Molotov cocktails wanted to kill Treasury Sec Scott Bessent: police]. − − :Probably another nutjob who read [[User:Conservative]]'s [[gay bashing]] article. Let's see if he uses the [[Conservapedia]] defense. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 16:04, January 28, 2025 (EST) − − == Sara Haines admits 'View' co-hosts don't know what Americans think because none of them voted for Trump. == − − [[Sara Haines]] admits '[[The View]]' co-hosts don't know what Americans think because none of them voted for Trump.https://www.foxnews.com/media/sara-haines-admits-view-co-hosts-dont-know-what-americans-think-because-no-one-voted- − − (I'm not sure who is worse Hostin or Behar)...[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 13:16, January 28, 2025 (EST) − − :ooooww tuffie...Behar is incorrigible and Hostin is still in an apprenticeship. While Behar deserves a Lifetime Achievement Award for Idiotic Partisanship, for the longterm Hostin is probably more dangerous. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 19:40, January 28, 2025 (EST) − − − :[[Sun Tzu]] said: "It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle." − − :If the left and liberals continue to stay in their self-imposed ideological cacoons (See: [[Echo chamber (media)]]) and not understand why Americans voted for Trump in the past, they will continue to lose a great many elections. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:58, January 28, 2025 (EST) − ::Fortunately their echo chamber has been shrinking in non legacy media which LED to our Nov 5. victory. [[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 14:04, January 28, 2025 (EST) − − ==Reports of empty stores, parking lots, and job sites== − out of fear of arrest and mass deportations. If true, there could or would also be a "protest vote" by legal citizens and workers, adding to the numbers. ''Developing''. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 18:43, January 28, 2025 (EST) − − :Location, State, city?[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 19:12, January 28, 2025 (EST) − − ::[https://citizenwatchreport.com/empty-store-parking-lots-and-quiet-factories-social-media-reports-suggest-illegal-immigrants-staying-away-leaving-stores-and-job-sites-empty/ Here's some reports], but the claim is of others nationwide. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 19:20, January 28, 2025 (EST) − ::[https://resistthemainstream.com/americans-detect-eerie-detail-as-illegal-aliens-fear-trumps-crackdown/ Another report]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 20:27, January 28, 2025 (EST) − ::: It differs city from city.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 01:52, February 2, 2025 (EST) − − ==Trump offers buyout of deadbeats on the federal payroll== − [https://www.axios.com/2025/01/28/trump-federal-workers-quit-severance] Probably would have a limited [[inflationary]] effect. But they should also be required to sign a waiver promising to never accept federal employment, or employment from a government contractor or grantee, under President Kamala Harris in 4 years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 19:27, January 28, 2025 (EST) − − == '$50m. taxpayer dollars funding condoms in Gaza' frozen by Trump, White House says ???== − − − [[File:Flammable objects being prepared to be flown toward Israel from Gaza .jpeg|thumb|File:Flammable objects being prepared to be flown toward Israel from Gaza]] − '$50m. taxpayer dollars funding condoms in Gaza' frozen by Trump, White House says. − Palestinian terrorists in Gaza began launching improvised explosive devices (IEDs), including condoms and balloons, into Israel’s South in 2017. − By Jerusalem Post Staff. − January 28, 2025 − [https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-839707 JPost] Next the entire "pay for slay" needs be exposed [[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 14:39, January 29, 2025 (EST) − :I saw this. WTH? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 15:00, January 29, 2025 (EST) − *Thank you Trump. The "Palestinians" might be innovative, but not for good. Many vital materials supplied as humanitarian aid, have been converted for terror use by that regime. For example - "How Hamas Turns Water Pipes Into Rockets" [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=04NB27x138Y] And boasted about it: "Hamas boasted it could use EU-funded pipelines to attack Israel."[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MvvqBcA-9yA].[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 15:19, January 29, 2025 (EST) − − ::Yes, very [[innovative]], which seems to contradict a lot of hate screed [[Essays]] in [[Conservapedia]] that are linked to and have polluted Mainspace categories. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 16:31, January 29, 2025 (EST) − − :::Since we, the US have been funding UN... [https://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2025/01/did-us-provide-hamas-with-condoms-that.html?m=1][[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 00:15, January 31, 2025 (EST) − ::::This innovative aspect by Palestinian Arabs is no compliment. It raises their guilt. How they have ruined Gaza in these years from when they received Strip part from Israel in 2005, showing having some talent but using it for destruction (mainly).[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 02:28, February 2, 2025 (EST) − − :::::You'll have to talk to [[user:Conservative]] about that. He claims [[innovation]] is the best thing since sliced bread. And he further believes [[Third World]] [[subhuman]]s are incapable of [[innovation]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 03:18, February 2, 2025 (EST) − − :::::I guess [[IED]]s are not innovations, according to [[User:Conservative]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 03:20, February 2, 2025 (EST) − *[[Daniel Greenfield]] wrote :[https://www.frontpagemag.com/fact-check-senator-claims-50m-in-condoms-needed-to-keep-malnourished-babies-alive-in-gaza/ Senator Claims $50M in Condoms Needed to “Keep Malnourished Babies Alive in Gaza” And the media is lying about it]. See how he exposes "fact checkers" on this.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 21:33, February 2, 2025 (EST) − ::Wow. This whole story needs to be added to the [[Chris Murphy]] article. He serves on the Appropriations Subcommittee on State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs and Foreign Relations Subcommittee on State Department and [[USAID]] Management, International Operations, and Bilateral International Development. [https://ballotpedia.org/Chris_Murphy_(Connecticut)] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 22:20, February 2, 2025 (EST) − :::Murphy is as radical as they come. Daniel referred to him appropriately Senator Chris Murphy D '''Tehran'''... [[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 23:15, February 2, 2025 (EST) − − *[https://rachelblevins.substack.com/p/trump-requests-1-billion-in-weapons Trump Requests $1 BILLION in Weapons, Armored Bulldozers for Israel Ahead of Netanyahu Talks]. − :Makes sense that Trump has to ask for $1 billion, given that [[USAID]] funds are on hold. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Zelensky must go.]]</sup> 17:53, February 4, 2025 (EST) − − == Freed hostage first message on plane: 'I have chosen the path of FAITH' (Psalm 119:30) and returned with FAITH== − − *[https://www.instagram.com/lizzysavetsky/reel/DFdLNY4xvuZ/ A lesson in choosing faith from Agam Berger]. − *[https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/403158 Agam's message after release from Hamas captivity: 'I chose faith, returned with faith']. − * [https://x.com/persianjewess/status/1885020301076918763 "Explanation"] − [[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 21:55, January 30, 2025 (EST) − :Truly inspiring. Heroic. Thanks D.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 00:11, January 31, 2025 (EST) − ::You welcome. In awe, after all they want through, and still.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 00:17, February 4, 2025 (EST) − − ==Trump needs to pardon [[Snowden]] now== − *''[[Politico]]:'' [https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-nightly/2025/01/30/tulsi-gabbards-edward-snowden-problem-00201692 Tulsi Gabbard’s Edward Snowden problem]. − − [[President Trump]] needs to [[pardon]] [[Edward Snowden]] immediately. This may neutralize and undo some of the damage and threats to her nomination that [[Democrat]]s, [[neocon]]s, and [[User:Conservative]] have placed in her way. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 19:39, January 30, 2025 (EST) − − [[Deep State]] snake [[Mark Warner]] to Gabbard: "[https://youtu.be/VJ74uAm06ao How can you blame NATO for Putin's brutal invasion…]. Clearly [[Sen. Mark Warner]] and [[User:Conservative]] are on the same page, based upon hundreds of thousands of bytes and thousands of hours of editing over 3 years by User:Conservative, '''''against''''' [[Tulsi Gabbard]] and [[Donald Trump]]. Gabbard's nomination, and the ability of Trump to [[drain the swamp]], hinges on this question. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 20:19, January 30, 2025 (EST) − − ==Third plane crash== − Alaska [[F-35]], Potomac [https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/PAT25 Priority Air Transport], and now [https://t.me/Slavyangrad/118503?single Philly Medivac][https://rumble.com/v6fppsm-insane-crash-footage-dashcam-captures-jet-crash-in-philadelphia.html][https://therightscoop.com/horrific-medical-jet-crashes-in-philly-sets-multiple-houses-on-fire-and-kills-all-six-onboard/] As Monkey Werx said, [https://youtu.be/srmUjRwua0w?t=622 "it always happens in threes" ("TFR" = temporary flight restriction)]. It was a big mistake when the US [[IC]] decided to attack [[Russian]] civilians inside Russia to convince the people their government can't protect them. [[Electronic warfare]] certainly is capable of causing all three of these incidents. [https://creativedestructionmedia.com/news/national/2025/01/31/another-suspicious-plane-crash-in-philadelphia-is-america-under-attack/] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 22:06, January 31, 2025 (EST) − − :(Note: the same helicopter under the same call sign took off from the same location and [https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/PAT25/history/20250118/2245Z/KDAA/KDAA/tracklog executed the same unusual changes in altitude] in a training flight 11 days earlier). − − [[Berletic]]: [https://rumble.com/v6eyxls-us-transfers-missiles-to-ukraine-end-war-responsibly-a-euphenism-for-contin.html US Transfers Missiles to Ukraine, "End War Responsibly" a Euphemism for Continuity of Agenda]. Would you expect the Russians not to respond, after all [[Trump]]'s promises to end the war in 24 hrs? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 22:36, January 31, 2025 (EST) − − ===What is electronic warfare and how is it possible?=== − ''What is [[electronic warfare]], and how is it possible to bring down a [[civilian]] or [[military]] aircraft?'' − − The subject is vast, too vast to thumbnail here. But yes, it is possible for a lone [[saboteur]] with a package no bigger than a cigar box in line-of-sight of an aircraft to disrupt its electronic instruments and communications, to the point that the pilot doesn't know if he's flying upside down, even on [[America]]'s most sophisticated 5th generation fighter, the [[F-35]]. Some electronic controls may even be taken over by electronic warfare. − − The universal consensus is, the [[Russians]] have the most advanced [[electronic warfare]] capabilities on the [[planet]]. And this only makes sense: while [[America]] has focused on "air superiority" since the 1940s, the [[Russian]]s prioritized "air defense". − − As early as the [[1991 Gulf War]], Soviet technology that had been given to Saddam Hussein was used to disrupt signals and get American [[Patriot missile]]s to shoot down friendly [[British]] fighter aircraft. The [[technology]] has only been [[innovation|innovated]] and improved since then. − − So if this is true - 3 airplane crashes in 3 days is retaliation for Russian oil facilities burning as we speak - [[Donald Trump]] has a decision to make: Make peace on Russia's terms or continue a [[New Cold War]] for the next 30-50 years that will instantly destroy America's commercial air passenger industry and hold private citizens hostage. − − :Who's advice will Trump take? [[Milley]], [[Lloyd Austin]], Gen. Keane, Gen. Hodges? and continue [[demonizing]] the Russian President and the Russian people? or will he make peace for the next generation? − − :'''Update:''' [https://t.me/geopolitics_live/42543 Inferno at California refinery triggers hazmat emergency!] − − :Message to [[User:Conservative]]: the exploding sewage pipeline in [[Moscow]] you are so proud of may actually be a form of [[electronic warfare]], getting the sewage lines over pressurized to explode (this was done as early as 1983 and even lately causing gas pipelines to explode. What goes around comes around). [[Obama]] signed the secret authorization for [[covert operation]]s and [[sabotage]] inside Russian territory, and I've never heard anything about [[Trump]] rescinding it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 01:15, February 1, 2025 (EST) − − :And the idea that America can defeat Russia on the conventional battlefield now is absurd and insane, or even stall until such a time as we can martial the manpower and resources to do so is ludicrous. Trump must decide now, today (if not yesterday) if he wants more Cold War or not, demonizing and ridiculing Russians and more wasteful defense spending on useless, expensive [[weapon]]s that do not work when you need them "for the foreseeable future". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 01:37, February 1, 2025 (EST) − − ===Kursk invasion and New Jersy drones=== − At the moment, [[electronic warfare]] is all the rage. The [[drone]] sightings over New Jersey, Langley, Lakenheath, and Germany were all part of an American program to improve [[America]]'s electronic warfare capabilities. On the first day of the [[NATO invasion of Kursk]] this past November, the armored vehicles combat tested a new version of America's electronic warfare that successfully warded off all Russian kamikaze [[drone]]s (this explains NATO/Ukraine's successful advances the first day). By the second day, the Russians switched to fiber optic drones (drones on a long, thin [[fiber optic]] cable which are not controlled by [[radio]] signals) again, successfully circumventing [[Western]] electronic warfare. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 03:12, February 1, 2025 (EST) − − ===Innovative Israeli electronic warfare=== − :Two examples of [[Israel]]i [[electronic warfare]] and an explanation of how [[Russian]] electronic warfare can destroy the commercial passenger airline industry: − − ::*A few years ago the Israelis were able to trick an [[Iran]]ian [[nuclear]] physicist to plug a flash drive into a computer [[USB]] port connected to the Iranian nuclear program, causing the entire Iranian nuclear program to go haywire. The Iranians learned an important lesson: if they wanted their own nuclear program, they would have to build their own secure [[microchip]] production factory and not rely on purchasing microchips from abroad. − − ::*The exploding [[Hezbollah]] pagers. It remains to be seen if Hezbollah learned the same lesson the Iranians did from the flash drive incident. − * *You missed Ayash [https://israeled.org/phone-bomb-kills-terrorist-yahya-ayyash/ 1996] phone.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 01:46, February 2, 2025 (EST) − :*Absolutely. It shows how dumb [[Hezbollah]] & [[Iran]] are. They've known of Israeli capabilities for nearly 30 years and never took countermeasures. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 01:57, February 2, 2025 (EST) − − ===Russian electronic warfare=== − :''How could or will [[Russian]] [[electronic warfare]] destroy the global commercial passenger airline industry?'' − − :When the public becomes aware of the nature of modern [[electronic warfare]], that a commercial passenger plane can be destroyed anywhere at any time as retaliation for the activities of their government, they will refuse to ever fly again. Now, you can argue that, in time, American [[innovation]] can develop countermeasures against it. Perhaps. But by that time [[American Airlines]] and others will have long been in [[bankruptcy]] and will have been liquidated. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 10:44, February 1, 2025 (EST) − ::Are they going to meet, Trump/Putin?[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 19:38, February 1, 2025 (EST) − :::The Illianov link posted below discusses this question. Whoever makes the first move to call the other loses (Trump team has reported for months that contact between the two was scheduled for the end of January or early February, and the [[Kremlin]] has reported that they'd be receptive. But I doubt much that Putin will initiate the call.) Trump frankly, is full of [[crap]] with all the [[CIA]]/[[Zelensky regime]] [[BS]] he's posted on [[social media]] lately - that Putin & Russia are desperate. In fact, [[Biden]] & [[NATO]] have already lost the war, and [[Trump]] now owns the loss. − − :::This war isn't going to end like all the other [[war]]s America has lost since 1945, as either a stalemate or [[America]] walking away after killing millions. The entire [[planet]] knows, or will know, that America got its butt kicked, despite cheerleaders like we have here in [[Conservapedia]] for [[Biden]] & [[Blinken]] saying otherwise. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 02:14, February 2, 2025 (EST) − − :::All that can be said is [[Biden]], the [[United States]] and the [[Western]] [[liberal media]] have made the [[Russian]] people very angry (angry like I have never seen in my life}. And they will settle for nothing less than turning [[Ukraine]] into rump state and protectorate. (Even if it means [[MAD]]. They are ready.) [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 02:33, February 2, 2025 (EST) − − :::By my estimation, of the 27 million Soviet peoples killed in [[WWII]], 19 million were killed in what after 1945 we called, "Ukraine". And the Russian people are beyond fed up with the [[lie]]s coming from the [[United States]], even as far back as 1945. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 02:37, February 2, 2025 (EST) − − ::::[https://youtu.be/b8HyJ7uvoNo Watch from 8 years ago] (while we were debating [[Colin Kaepernick]] kneeling), the people stand, and it is not even their [[national anthem]]. − − ::::[[Fascism]] comes from [[the West]], [[Peace]] comes from the East. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 03:36, February 2, 2025 (EST)
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====Trump-Putin talks====
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:::::Quote "Whoever makes the first move to call the other loses." Maybe both sides start at lower level discussions, first.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 23:24, February 3, 2025 (EST)
:::::Quote "Whoever makes the first move to call the other loses." Maybe both sides start at lower level discussions, first.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 23:24, February 3, 2025 (EST)