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:::::Apples and oranges: US debt to GDP from nearly 20 years ago to a controversial estimate of China's ratio today. That in itself is a big question: Nobody trusts China's accounting and estimates. Furthermore, the 2008 bailouts INCREASED US debt to GDP to over 100%, which is a key factor in WHY [[BRICS]] was founded (the US tried to sluff off its monetary expansion and [[inflation]] on the rest of the [[planet]] to benefit itself and bail itself out.) [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 12:18, July 9, 2025 (EDT)
:::::Apples and oranges: US debt to GDP from nearly 20 years ago to a controversial estimate of China's ratio today. That in itself is a big question: Nobody trusts China's accounting and estimates. Furthermore, the 2008 bailouts INCREASED US debt to GDP to over 100%, which is a key factor in WHY [[BRICS]] was founded (the US tried to sluff off its monetary expansion and [[inflation]] on the rest of the [[planet]] to benefit itself and bail itself out.) [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 12:18, July 9, 2025 (EDT)
::::When you combine China's deflation and its debt bubble bursting with its authoritarian, godless, government's often foolish decisions and [https://www.google.com/search?q=china%27s+demographic+crisis&sca_esv=f7156635f6e9a261&sxsrf=AE3TifMiLSjRh_z7rblV_fgdBb-WnHM5rQ%3A1752075215656&ei=z4tuaPfgJ5r-ptQPr5ug-AU&ved=0ahUKEwi3hOXmjLCOAxUav4kEHa8NCF8Q4dUDCBE&uact=5&oq=china%27s+demographic+crisis&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiGmNoaW5hJ3MgZGVtb2dyYXBoaWMgY3Jpc2lzMgoQIxiABBgnGIoFMgYQABgWGB4yBhAAGBYYHjIGEAAYFhgeMgYQABgWGB4yBhAAGBYYHjIGEAAYFhgeMgYQABgWGB4yBhAAGBYYHjIGEAAYFhgeSMY3UABYxzRwAXgAkAEAmAHjAaABgRuqAQYwLjI2LjG4AQPIAQD4AQGYAhygAowcwgIEECMYJ8ICChAAGIAEGEMYigXCAgsQABiABBiRAhiKBcICDRAAGIAEGLEDGEMYigXCAhEQLhiABBixAxjRAxiDARjHAcICCxAAGIAEGLEDGIMBwgINEC4YgAQYsQMYFBiHAsICChAAGIAEGBQYhwLCAgUQABiABMICBRAuGIAEwgILEAAYgAQYhgMYigXCAggQABiABBiiBMICBRAAGO8FmAMAkgcGMS4yNi4xoAfPlQKyBwYwLjI2LjG4B4YcwgcEMi0yOMgHfw&sclient=gws-wiz-serp its severe demographic crisis], betting on China is not a good economic gamble. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:36, July 9, 2025 (EDT)
::::When you combine China's deflation and its debt bubble bursting with its authoritarian, godless, government's often foolish decisions and [https://www.google.com/search?q=china%27s+demographic+crisis&sca_esv=f7156635f6e9a261&sxsrf=AE3TifMiLSjRh_z7rblV_fgdBb-WnHM5rQ%3A1752075215656&ei=z4tuaPfgJ5r-ptQPr5ug-AU&ved=0ahUKEwi3hOXmjLCOAxUav4kEHa8NCF8Q4dUDCBE&uact=5&oq=china%27s+demographic+crisis&gs_lp=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&sclient=gws-wiz-serp its severe demographic crisis], betting on China is not a good economic gamble. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:36, July 9, 2025 (EDT)
:::::Once again, China's debt ratio is not a concern. As [[FDR]] said, "We owe it to ourselves". It is not held by [[Wall Street]] of the [[City of London]]. [[User:Conservative]] has no understanding of [[foreign debt]], and makes these apples and oranges arguments. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 12:00, July 9, 2025 (EDT)
:::::Once again, China's debt ratio is not a concern. As [[FDR]] said, "We owe it to ourselves". It is not held by [[Wall Street]] or the [[City of London]]. [[User:Conservative]] has no understanding of [[foreign debt]], and makes these apples and oranges arguments. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 12:00, July 9, 2025 (EDT)
So let's return to the core question again, Mr. Freedom Lover:
So let's return to the core question again, Mr. Freedom Lover: