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:::There are people who think that having an authoritarian, corrupt, and imperialistic country is worth the price if it makes homosexuality somewhat less prevalent in society (Russia has gay clubs/saunas in Moscow, St. Petersburg, etc.).  And they are willing to look the other way when it comes to war crimes in such an imperialistic power. In my view and in the view of most Westerners, that is too high a price to have a somewhat lower rate of homosexuality in a society.  

:::There are people who think that having an authoritarian, corrupt, and imperialistic country is worth the price if it makes homosexuality somewhat less prevalent in society (Russia has gay clubs/saunas in Moscow, St. Petersburg, etc.).  And they are willing to look the other way when it comes to war crimes in such an imperialistic power. In my view and in the view of most Westerners, that is too high a price to have a somewhat lower rate of homosexuality in a society.  

:::I don't know of a single Christianized country that is authoritarian and has high church attendance. And if you don't have high church attendance you are going to have things like a high level of divorce, drunkenness, AIDS epidemic which are things that Russia has. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:30, September 24, 2025 (EDT)

:::I don't know of a single Christianized country that is authoritarian and has high church attendance. Jesus was not in favor of authoritarianism which is why most Christianized countries are not autocratic (Jesus said things like "You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great ones are tyrants over them." - Matthew 20:25). And if you don't have high church attendance you are going to have things like a high level of divorce, drunkenness, AIDS epidemic which are things that Russia has. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:30, September 24, 2025 (EDT)