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:Simplicius: "[[Trump]] flatly states “with the support of Europe and NATO”—'''rather than the [[US]]'''—means he’s washing his hands of the conflict."
 
:Simplicius: "[[Trump]] flatly states “with the support of Europe and NATO”—'''rather than the [[US]]'''—means he’s washing his hands of the conflict."
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:Mearsheimer: "Consider these words: “I think Ukraine, with the support of the European Union, is in a position to fight and WIN all of Ukraine back in its original form.” '''Note that he doesn’t mention the United States'''.
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:Mearsheimer: "Consider these words: “I think Ukraine, with the support of the European Union, is in a position to fight and WIN all of Ukraine back in its original form.” '''Note that he doesn’t mention the United States'''. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 17:32, September 24, 2025 (EDT)
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: [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 17:32, September 24, 2025 (EDT)
      
:::There are people who think that having an authoritarian, corrupt, and imperialistic country which kills its political opponents is worth the price if it makes homosexuality somewhat less prevalent in society (Russia has gay clubs/saunas in Moscow, St. Petersburg, etc.).  And they are willing to look the other way when it comes to war crimes in such an imperialistic power. In my view and in the view of most Westerners, that is too high a price to have a somewhat lower rate of homosexuality in a society.  
 
:::There are people who think that having an authoritarian, corrupt, and imperialistic country which kills its political opponents is worth the price if it makes homosexuality somewhat less prevalent in society (Russia has gay clubs/saunas in Moscow, St. Petersburg, etc.).  And they are willing to look the other way when it comes to war crimes in such an imperialistic power. In my view and in the view of most Westerners, that is too high a price to have a somewhat lower rate of homosexuality in a society.  
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