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Mystery: Was John a Samaritan (view source)
Revision as of 23:55, October 11, 2025
, 23:55, October 11, 2025rebutted first two
#John uses the term for "kingdom" in only three verses (possibly added later), far less than its use by the other [[Gospel]]s, as Samaritans did not have kings and a kingdom as [[Hebrew]]s and others have; and
#John uses the term for "kingdom" in only three verses (possibly added later), far less than its use by the other [[Gospel]]s, as Samaritans did not have kings and a kingdom as [[Hebrew]]s and others have; and
#the name "John" came from an [[angel]] for the naming of [[John the Baptist]],<ref>{{bibleref|John|1|13}}</ref> is [[Aramaic]] rather than [[Hebrew]] as no one in the entire [[Old Testament]] has the name "John",<ref>"Yochanan" is the Aramaic origin of John's name.</ref> and none of the [[Jewish]] relatives of John the Baptist had that name.<ref>{{bibleref|John|1|61}}</ref> Likewise for the name of his brother, "James".
#the name "John" came from an [[angel]] for the naming of [[John the Baptist]],<ref>{{bibleref|John|1|13}}</ref> is [[Aramaic]] rather than [[Hebrew]] as no one in the entire [[Old Testament]] has the name "John",<ref>"Yochanan" is the Aramaic origin of John's name.</ref> and none of the [[Jewish]] relatives of John the Baptist had that name.<ref>{{bibleref|John|1|61}}</ref> Likewise for the name of his brother, "James".
#many of Jesus's followers were Samaritans, as reflected by how 1 out of 10 of those cured of [[leprosy]] based on their [[faith]] and the only one who thanked Jesus was a Samaritan in {{bibleref|Luke|17:11-19}}; it follows that 1-2 of Jesus's 12 [[Apostles]] were likewise Samaritan, as in John and his brother James.
#many of Jesus's followers were Samaritans, as reflected by how 1 out of 10 of those cured of [[leprosy]] based on their [[faith]] anbutd the only one who thanked Jesus was a Samaritan in {{bibleref|Luke|17:11-19}}; it follows that 1-2 of Jesus's 12 [[Apostles]] were likewise Samaritan, as in John and his brother James.
#Jesus walked with his [[Apostles]] without any objecting directly through Samaria, which was between [[Galilee]] and [[Jerusalem]], while Jewish people preferred to walk around Samaria rather than through it; this suggests some of the Apostles were [[Samaritan]]s.
#Jesus walked with his [[Apostles]] without any objecting directly through Samaria, which was between [[Galilee]] and [[Jerusalem]], while Jewish people preferred to walk around Samaria rather than through it; this suggests some of the Apostles were [[Samaritan]]s.
#John emphasized that Jesus "came to what was his own, but his own people [''i.e.'', Jewish people] did not accept him," while others did accept him.<ref>{{bibleref|John|1|11-12}}</ref> John accepted Him, so John is part of "others" rather than part of Jesus' "own people." The most likely "other" group in the same vicinity was comprised of Samaritans.
#John emphasized that Jesus "came to what was his own, but his own people [''i.e.'', Jewish people] did not accept him," while others did accept him.<ref>{{bibleref|John|1|11-12}}</ref> John accepted Him, so John is part of "others" rather than part of Jesus' "own people." The most likely "other" group in the same vicinity was comprised of Samaritans.
== Grok's Counterarguments ==
The [[AI]] [[Grok]] -- which is managed by [[liberal]]s, despite [[Elon Musk]] owning it -- makes these four, easily rebuttal counterarguments to [[John]] being a [[Samaritan]]:
1."John (with brother James and Peter) is explicitly from Bethsaida in Galilee, a Jewish fishing village, and identified as son of Zebedee—a common Jewish name tied to Galilean fishermen (Mark 1:19–20)."
:'''Rebuttal''': "Zebedee" is not a common Jewish name, and neither is "John". Bethsaida was a fishing village but it is not actually known if John was from there, or whether some Samaritans lived there.
2. "Matthew, Mark, and Luke consistently depict John as a core Jewish disciple (e.g., at the Transfiguration, Mark 9:2; Last Supper, all three), with no ethnic ambiguity. Early church fathers like Irenaeus (Against Heresies, ~180 CE) affirm his Jewish Ephesian ministry."
:'''Rebuttal''': Nowhere is John characterized "as a core Jewish disciple." He did attend the [[Transfiguration]] and [[Last Supper]], but does not say anything about John's ethnicity. A comment by one church father 150 years later about this issue is unpersuasive.
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