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:::And as far as whether or not Ukraine could win the war and gain back all their land, while winning the war to that extent is not likely and a frozen conflict is more likely, it is not impossible either. Russia is having significant economic problems. In addition, as time progresses the war is becoming less popular due to the casualties and slow territorial gains
:::And as far as whether or not Ukraine could win the war and gain back all their land, while winning the war to that extent is not likely and a frozen conflict is more likely, it is not impossible either. Russia is having significant economic problems. In addition, as time progresses the war is becoming less popular due to the casualties and slow territorial gains
::::'''"low territorial gains"'''. I get a kick out of this argument, presented in many ways at many times. '''Question:''' The [[United States]] fought the [[Vietnam war]] for 10 years, the [[Afghan war]] for 20 years, and the [[Iraq war]] for at least 11 years (before it expanded into [[Syria]] with the rise of the [[Islamic State]]). After 41 years of [[war]]fare, how much [[Vietnam]]ese, [[Afghan]], or [[Iraq]]i territory does the [[United States]] control? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 18:50, December 4, 2025 (EST)
::::'''"low territorial gains"'''. I get a kick out of this argument, presented in many ways at many times.
::::'''Question:''' The [[United States]] fought the [[Vietnam war]] for 10 years, the [[Afghan war]] for 20 years, and the [[Iraq war]] for at least 11 years (before it expanded into [[Syria]] with the rise of the [[Islamic State]]). After 41 years of [[war]]fare, how much [[Vietnam]]ese, [[Afghan]], or [[Iraq]]i territory does the [[United States]] control? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 18:50, December 4, 2025 (EST)