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| | :No no no - I was talking about [[User:Conservative]]. He has used his influence with Andy on technical matters to promote himself and suppress other editors' contributions. Andy needs a better technical person to rely on. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 09:25, June 7, 2026 (EDT)<br> | | :No no no - I was talking about [[User:Conservative]]. He has used his influence with Andy on technical matters to promote himself and suppress other editors' contributions. Andy needs a better technical person to rely on. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 09:25, June 7, 2026 (EDT)<br> |
| | ::Unfortunately I can not offer true software help, but I can offer hardware. Influence or even meritocracy is not what I seek. I am just offering to provide a server and a secondary location, Andy will have to see to integration.<br> I am doing this because this is the battle for free thought, speach and access to information that is not controlled by the narrative. If I had the choice between freedom of Religion and Thought and access to information, I would choose the later as it feeds the former. [[User:AnthonyPvanDuyn|AnthonyPvanDuyn]] ([[User talk:AnthonyPvanDuyn|talk]]) 21:40, June 8, 2026 (EDT) | | ::Unfortunately I can not offer true software help, but I can offer hardware. Influence or even meritocracy is not what I seek. I am just offering to provide a server and a secondary location, Andy will have to see to integration.<br> I am doing this because this is the battle for free thought, speach and access to information that is not controlled by the narrative. If I had the choice between freedom of Religion and Thought and access to information, I would choose the later as it feeds the former. [[User:AnthonyPvanDuyn|AnthonyPvanDuyn]] ([[User talk:AnthonyPvanDuyn|talk]]) 21:40, June 8, 2026 (EDT) |
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| | + | == Creating a separate page [[Holocaust by Bullets]] == |
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| | + | === 1. National WWII Museum — “The Holocaust by Bullets” in Ukraine === |
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| | + | The article explains that [[Ukraine]] was one of the main locations of the [[The Holocaust|Holocaust]]’s earliest mass killings. After [[Nazi Germany]] invaded the [[Soviet Union]] in June 1941, mobile killing units called the [[Einsatzgruppen]], together with German military and police forces and local collaborators, began murdering Jewish civilians.<ref name="WW2Museum">{{cite web |title=The Holocaust by Bullets in Ukraine |url=https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/ukraine-holocaust |publisher=The National WWII Museum |access-date=9 August 2026}}</ref> |
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| | + | Instead of deporting victims to extermination camps, Jews were often taken from their homes, marched to nearby ravines, forests, or fields, and shot. The killings rapidly expanded from Jewish men considered political enemies to entire communities, including women and children. Major massacres included [[Kamianets-Podilskyi massacre|Kamianets-Podilskyi]] and [[Babi Yar]], where 33,771 Jews were murdered in two days.<ref name="WW2Museum" /> |
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| | + | The article emphasizes that these shootings were an important first phase of the Holocaust. The enormous scale and psychological burden of mass shootings contributed to the Nazis developing more systematic methods of mass murder in extermination camps.<ref name="WW2Museum" /> |
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| | + | === 2. Shoah Memorial — “Radicalization of the Genocide” === |
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| | + | This source focuses on how the genocide became increasingly radical and systematic during 1941–1943. In the [[Zhytomyr]] region, for example, approximately 3,000 Jews were killed in July 1941, 10,000 in August, and 27,000 in September. At places such as Babi Yar, tens of thousands were murdered at once.<ref name="ShoahMemorial">{{cite web |title=Radicalization of the Genocide |url=https://www.memorialdelashoah.org/upload/minisites/ukraine/en/en_exposition4-radicalisation.htm |publisher=Mémorial de la Shoah |access-date=9 August 2026}}</ref> |
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| | + | The Holocaust by bullets continued in Ukraine for much of the German occupation. The source states that approximately 80% of Ukrainian Jewish victims were murdered locally by shooting, while about 20% were deported to extermination camps such as [[Bełżec extermination camp|Bełżec]], [[Sobibór extermination camp|Sobibór]], and [[Auschwitz concentration camp|Auschwitz]].<ref name="ShoahMemorial" /> |
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| | + | The source also describes [[Sonderaktion 1005|Operation 1005]], in which the Nazis attempted to destroy evidence of mass murder by exhuming and burning bodies from mass graves.<ref name="ShoahMemorial" /> |
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| | + | === 3. JFCS Holocaust Center — “The Holocaust by Bullets” === |
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| | + | This source focuses on efforts to uncover and document the mass killing sites. It highlights the work of [[Patrick Desbois]] and [[Yahad-In Unum]], who investigated locations where Jews had been murdered by Nazi mobile killing units. Their research used interviews with local witnesses, physical evidence, and ballistic evidence to locate mass graves and reconstruct what happened at the sites.<ref name="JFCS">{{cite web |title=The Holocaust by Bullets |url=https://holocaustcenter.jfcs.org/education-resources/the-holocaust-by-bullets/ |publisher=JFCS Holocaust Center |access-date=9 August 2026}}</ref> |
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| | + | A major purpose of this work is to give recognition to victims whose murder sites were often unmarked and largely forgotten after the war. The research seeks to document these locations and preserve the memory of the people who were murdered there.<ref name="JFCS" /> |
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| | + | === Overall === |
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| | + | All three sources show that the Holocaust in Ukraine was not primarily a story of Jews being transported to famous extermination camps. A huge proportion were murdered close to where they lived through mass shootings.<ref name="WW2Museum" /> |
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| | + | They also show a process of radicalization: |
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| | + | :'''Persecution → shootings of Jewish men → mass shootings of entire communities → systematic genocide → attempts to hide the evidence.''' |
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| | + | Together, the sources emphasize that the “Holocaust by bullets” was a central part of the Holocaust and that many victims and killing sites remained less well known because the murders often took place at local sites rather than in large, purpose-built extermination camps.<ref name="WW2Museum" /> |
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| | + | == References == |
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| | + | {{reflist}} |