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| | :::*"''i hate imperialsm, its wrong the people are for lack of a better word made slaves, it is usaly done for wrong reasons( exploitation, slaves, gold)"'' evidently you don't | | :::*"''i hate imperialsm, its wrong the people are for lack of a better word made slaves, it is usaly done for wrong reasons( exploitation, slaves, gold)"'' evidently you don't |
| | :::*"''chechnya has been considerd russian land for years, yes it has been conqured, but it is/has considerd russian land, in any ww1/ ww2 treaty invovling russia(soviet union) over land it has been considerd russian land''" True, it was considered Soviet land much like the rest of the nations in the oppressive Soviet Union which, if you didn't know, '''DISSOLVED'''. Why don't the Chechens deserve independence? [[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]] 00:05, 20 July 2007 (EDT) | | :::*"''chechnya has been considerd russian land for years, yes it has been conqured, but it is/has considerd russian land, in any ww1/ ww2 treaty invovling russia(soviet union) over land it has been considerd russian land''" True, it was considered Soviet land much like the rest of the nations in the oppressive Soviet Union which, if you didn't know, '''DISSOLVED'''. Why don't the Chechens deserve independence? [[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]] 00:05, 20 July 2007 (EDT) |
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| | + | to begin with, please tell me why the tsars loked to conqure, why did peter the great wage the great northern war to gain land to build saint pertersburg, a port. why did kathrin the great invade poland and eventully have a hand in disolving in it looking for water sutable for ports. why then, did russia get involved in the ruso-japanes war over coste land in china? please tell me |
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| | + | 2nd, i knwo this topic is about russia but you cant claim one thing and have it both ways. you say the entire western half of america is america tho it was conqured, but russia conqured chechnya but thats not their land. |
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| | + | 3rd, im so glad you resorted to child like name calling. because we all knwo thats im suposed to be super ofended by being called imperialist. now tell me why i am an imperialsit because i pointed out that is done for bad reasons but given good names like: we are bringing them "culture", bringing them "christianity" so please i dont like it, clearly you dont either so |
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| | + | 4th, it was ''''russian'''' land. when the soviet union disolved after russia left, chechnya was brought i with it because chehnya was russia, not a seperate country within the soviet union, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Estonia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldovia, Russia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan, poland, east germany these made up the soviet union. chcnya was in russia. now i never said they dont deserve independece, if thats what they want i hope they win, what i think is that the united states should not get militarily involved in that. and im sorry about my misfact about the duma, the book is 5 years old. |
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| | *''we should only do it through the u.n'' | | *''we should only do it through the u.n'' |