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:::::::A person's revenue is thier property, unless a [[lien]] exists against it.  To say otherwise, is to deny basic equality and  the Rights of Man.  I know I know, leftists have had much success peddling [[tripe]] contrary to this basic fact for several decades, that people are too stupid to understand economic processes or even how to exercise thier basic rights, and they need [[gulag]] masters or a [[nomenklatura]] to dole out the leftovers of thier own labor back to them (i.e. "income redistribution"), but stuff like that just won't fly here.   

:::::::A person's revenue is thier property, unless a [[lien]] exists against it.  To say otherwise, is to deny basic equality and  the Rights of Man.  I know I know, leftists have had much success peddling [[tripe]] contrary to this basic fact for several decades, that people are too stupid to understand economic processes or even how to exercise thier basic rights, and they need [[gulag]] masters or a [[nomenklatura]] to dole out the leftovers of thier own labor back to them (i.e. "income redistribution"), but stuff like that just won't fly here.   

::::::::Of course an individual's income is his property -- but it's not property he already owns -- it is ''new'' property -- an ''increase'' in property.  That's why it is called ''"income."''  There is nothing even vaguely Marxist about that distinction.  I would be a lot more upset if the government came and took 25% of my property every year than I am that they took 25% of my income, because at least once I earn something and pay taxes on my new wealth, it's finally mine and they have no more claim to it.  I see nothing marxist about that distinction.  [[User:Ungtss|Ungtss]] 22:32, 19 August 2007 (EDT)

::::::::Of course an individual's income is his property -- but it's not property he already owns -- it is ''new'' property -- an ''increase'' in property.  That's why it is called ''"income."''  There is nothing even vaguely Marxist about that distinction.  I would be a lot more upset if the government came and took 25% of my property every year than I am that they took 25% of my income, because at least once I earn something and pay taxes on my new wealth, it's finally mine and they have no more claim to it.  I see nothing marxist about that distinction.  [[User:Ungtss|Ungtss]] 22:32, 19 August 2007 (EDT)

 

:::::::And why do you persist in placing charitable giving as a subset of government policy?  [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:16, 19 August 2007 (EDT)

:::::::And why do you persist in placing charitable giving as a subset of government policy?  [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:16, 19 August 2007 (EDT)

::::::::I'm not saying it is, sir.  I'm saying that both charitable giving and compulsary redistribution are types of income redistribution, because both processes redistribute income.  And if you would, sir, could you address why you deleted all the material criticizing income redistribution?  Thanks!  [[User:Ungtss|Ungtss]] 22:32, 19 August 2007 (EDT)

::::::::I'm not saying it is, sir.  I'm saying that both charitable giving and compulsary redistribution are types of income redistribution, because both processes redistribute income.  And if you would, sir, could you address why you deleted all the material criticizing income redistribution?  Thanks!  [[User:Ungtss|Ungtss]] 22:32, 19 August 2007 (EDT)