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::::::::Of course an individual's income is his property -- but it's not property he already owns -- it is ''new'' property -- an ''increase'' in property.  That's why it is called ''"income."''  There is nothing even vaguely Marxist about that distinction.  I would be a lot more upset if the government came and took 25% of my property every year than I am that they took 25% of my income, because at least once I earn something and pay taxes on my new wealth, it's finally mine and they have no more claim to it.  I see nothing marxist about that distinction.  [[User:Ungtss|Ungtss]] 22:32, 19 August 2007 (EDT)

::::::::Of course an individual's income is his property -- but it's not property he already owns -- it is ''new'' property -- an ''increase'' in property.  That's why it is called ''"income."''  There is nothing even vaguely Marxist about that distinction.  I would be a lot more upset if the government came and took 25% of my property every year than I am that they took 25% of my income, because at least once I earn something and pay taxes on my new wealth, it's finally mine and they have no more claim to it.  I see nothing marxist about that distinction.  [[User:Ungtss|Ungtss]] 22:32, 19 August 2007 (EDT)

:::::::::That is a privacy issue; it is none of your business what a persons accumalated wealth is.  Are you attempting to sow hate and envy among so called "classes" of citizens?  [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:42, 19 August 2007 (EDT)

:::::::::That is a privacy issue; it is none of your business what a persons accumalated wealth is.  Are you attempting to sow hate and envy among so called "classes" of citizens?  [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:42, 19 August 2007 (EDT)

:::::::And why do you persist in placing charitable giving as a subset of government policy?  [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:16, 19 August 2007 (EDT)

:::::::And why do you persist in placing charitable giving as a subset of government policy?  [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:16, 19 August 2007 (EDT)

::::::::I'm not saying it is, sir.  I'm saying that both charitable giving and compulsary redistribution are types of income redistribution, because both processes redistribute income.  And if you would, sir, could you address why you deleted all the material criticizing income redistribution?  Thanks!  [[User:Ungtss|Ungtss]] 22:32, 19 August 2007 (EDT)

::::::::I'm not saying it is, sir.  I'm saying that both charitable giving and compulsary redistribution are types of income redistribution, because both processes redistribute income.  And if you would, sir, could you address why you deleted all the material criticizing income redistribution?  Thanks!  [[User:Ungtss|Ungtss]] 22:32, 19 August 2007 (EDT)

:::::::::You have done precisely that, twice now.  You define income redistribution as government policy, then you proceed to divide that policy into two types, compulsory, and voluntary.  Then you say that this government policy is responsible for voluntary charitable giving.  

:::::::::You have done precisely that, twice now.  You define income redistribution as government policy, then you proceed to divide that policy into two types, compulsory, and voluntary.  Then you say that this government policy is responsible for voluntary charitable giving.  

:::::::::Really, a junior high school student can see the ludicriously of this statement, which you have inserted twice now.  This is beginning to approach trolling, i.e. wasting a Sysops time.  [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:42, 19 August 2007 (EDT)

:::::::::Really, a junior high school student can see the ludicriously of this statement, which you have inserted twice now.  This is beginning to approach trolling, i.e. wasting a Sysops time.  [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:42, 19 August 2007 (EDT)