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*Clinton lied under oath about sex, which '''did not''' "rise to the level" of removal from office.  Craig confessed under oath to intent (the same as the act).  How does this "rise to the level" of removal from office?
 
*Clinton lied under oath about sex, which '''did not''' "rise to the level" of removal from office.  Craig confessed under oath to intent (the same as the act).  How does this "rise to the level" of removal from office?
 
*Our [[homophobia]] article links to several [[American Psychological Association]] (APA) papers about "societal homophobia" and "internalized homophobia." Let's forget the internalized part in this discussion, and look at "societal homophobia."  Groups like NARTH say societal homophobia is a crock, whereas more (shall we say) "liberal" inclinded authors and organizations such as the APA maintain homosexuals are societal victims of homophobia, and "institutional homphobia," such as laws that target gays such as outlined in the ''ABC News'' article.  Many gay rights activists view the sting operation that netted Craig as discriminitory.  So we are back to the issue of hypocricy, once again.  [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 15:34, 31 August 2007 (EDT)
 
*Our [[homophobia]] article links to several [[American Psychological Association]] (APA) papers about "societal homophobia" and "internalized homophobia." Let's forget the internalized part in this discussion, and look at "societal homophobia."  Groups like NARTH say societal homophobia is a crock, whereas more (shall we say) "liberal" inclinded authors and organizations such as the APA maintain homosexuals are societal victims of homophobia, and "institutional homphobia," such as laws that target gays such as outlined in the ''ABC News'' article.  Many gay rights activists view the sting operation that netted Craig as discriminitory.  So we are back to the issue of hypocricy, once again.  [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 15:34, 31 August 2007 (EDT)
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:Well...I don't think there's anything close to an impeachment case against Craig.  The pressure he's feeling to resign is from forces within his own party.
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:And *I*, at least, do not view sting operations to nab cruisers as discriminatory.  If straight people cruised in the same manner that gay men do, I would want them nabbed as well.  Cruising is so incredibly dangerous, since (opinion, I have no figures to back this up) most people who cruise for sex don't use any means of protection when they do it.  It *is* true that for the most part, only gay men are arrested for cruising but that's because really, only gay men cruise.  I don't think even gay women cruise.--[[User:Porthos|Porthos]] 15:42, 31 August 2007 (EDT)
    
Too much blathering, unrelated to improving the [[Main Page]] or the (now unprotected) [[Larry Craig]] article. Any reason I shouldn't move all of this talk to [[Conservapedia:Views of Larry Craig]]? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 14:50, 31 August 2007 (EDT)
 
Too much blathering, unrelated to improving the [[Main Page]] or the (now unprotected) [[Larry Craig]] article. Any reason I shouldn't move all of this talk to [[Conservapedia:Views of Larry Craig]]? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 14:50, 31 August 2007 (EDT)
    
:That makes sense to me.--[[User:Porthos|Porthos]] 14:51, 31 August 2007 (EDT)
 
:That makes sense to me.--[[User:Porthos|Porthos]] 14:51, 31 August 2007 (EDT)
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