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The part that people miss is assuming that God is picking the rock up with a pair of arms like a human. God isn't a human. God doesn't have a physical body. God can't lift rocks. God makes the rock lift itself. God hates furries.

The part that people miss is assuming that God is picking the rock up with a pair of arms like a human. God isn't a human. God doesn't have a physical body. God can't lift rocks. God makes the rock lift itself.

:Doesn't "lifting" assume an "up"? What is an omnipresent being standing on when lifting a rock? I think this question is broken. [[User:Totnesmartin|Totnesmartin]] 16:55, 16 May 2007  

:Doesn't "lifting" assume an "up"? What is an omnipresent being standing on when lifting a rock? I think this question is broken. [[User:Totnesmartin|Totnesmartin]] 16:55, 16 May 2007  

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Alright, then can he make a rock so large he cannot make it move? And another thing disproving that he exists; it says in Genesis it took him six days to create the universe. A perfect, all-powerful god would have created it instantly. And some say that maybe he took his time, etc. That doesn't work either, because if he was perfect, everything he did would be as efficient as possible, and that would mean instantly. And, on top of that, he had to rest from the effort. Now, granted, creating a universe in only six days, and only resting for one is still pretty impressive, but that doesn't mean omnipotence.- Bob Sanchez

Alright, then can he make a rock so large he cannot make it move? And another thing disproving that he exists; it says in Genesis it took him six days to create the universe. A perfect, all-powerful god would have created it instantly. And some say that maybe he took his time, etc. That doesn't work either, because if he was perfect, everything he did would be as efficient as possible, and that would mean instantly. And, on top of that, he had to rest from the effort. Now, granted, creating a universe in only six days, and only resting for one is still pretty impressive, but that doesn't mean omnipotence.- Bob Sanchez

:As far as the rock is concerned, that has been answered below, I believe.  God can do anything ''that can be done''.  Creating a rock too big for Him to move is not something that can be done.

:As far as the rock is concerned, that has been answered below, I believe.  God can do anything ''that can be done''.  Creating a rock too big for Him to move is not something that can be done.

:You are incorrect in claiming that a "perfect, all-powerful god would have created [the universe] instantly".  The correct statement would be that He ''could'' create it instantly, not that He ''would''.

:You are incorrect in claiming that a "perfect, all-powerful god would have created [the universe] instantly".  The correct statement would be that He ''could'' create it instantly, not that He ''would''.

:In summary, then, you have basically tried picking holes with the account by saying that if God was truly omnipotent, He would have done things the way that you think He would have done them, which overlooks that perhaps there are reasons that He ''chose'' to do them the way He did that you hadn't considered.

:In summary, then, you have basically tried picking holes with the account by saying that if God was truly omnipotent, He would have done things the way that you think He would have done them, which overlooks that perhaps there are reasons that He ''chose'' to do them the way He did that you hadn't considered.

:[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 03:02, 17 July 2007 (EDT)

:[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 03:02, 17 July 2007 (EDT)

== Absurd ==

== Absurd ==