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I do think we mean the same, yes.
::Yes, well, the origonal author of the article has said that I have been too harsh on him, so I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt here. Honestly, though, I don't know anything about the Irish Times, so I didn't want to completely cut all of the over the top stuff without knowing what I was doing. Same problem it sounds you have. Hrm, how does one find sources *about* a news source? I'll be back... [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 22:34, 8 October 2007 (EDT)
::Yes, well, the origonal author of the article has said that I have been too harsh on him, so I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt here. Honestly, though, I don't know anything about the Irish Times, so I didn't want to completely cut all of the over the top stuff without knowing what I was doing. Same problem it sounds you have. Hrm, how does one find sources *about* a news source? I'll be back... [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 22:34, 8 October 2007 (EDT)
:::It should not be THAT hard to find sources about the Irish Times. But it should be hard to find sources for the numerous broad claims scattered all the way through the article. If I (fact)-tagged all bold claims, I'd get banned for being a vandal because 25% of the article would be superscripted "Citation needed"s. --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 22:38, 8 October 2007 (EDT)