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Talk:Essay:Political arguments favoring abortion on demand (view source)
Revision as of 14:31, November 22, 2007
, 14:31, November 22, 2007rebuttal to Gridley
:It's really quite clever how they made this argument. It's parallel to the "[[homophobia]]" scam: irrational reasoning and arguments based on "hate" should be disregarded because they are nonsensical. Opposition to homosexuality is a [[phobia]], i.e., an irrational fear or hatred. Therefore, opposition to homosexuality is nonsensical. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 23:21, 20 November 2007 (EST)
:It's really quite clever how they made this argument. It's parallel to the "[[homophobia]]" scam: irrational reasoning and arguments based on "hate" should be disregarded because they are nonsensical. Opposition to homosexuality is a [[phobia]], i.e., an irrational fear or hatred. Therefore, opposition to homosexuality is nonsensical. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 23:21, 20 November 2007 (EST)
::Actually, when you put it that way it sounds quite reasonable. Why do you say that it is a scam? That is to say: where is the logical flaw? --[[User:Gridley|Gridley]] 23:25, 20 November 2007 (EST)
::Actually, when you put it that way it sounds quite reasonable. Why do you say that it is a scam? That is to say: where is the logical flaw? --[[User:Gridley|Gridley]] 23:25, 20 November 2007 (EST)
:So glad you asked. :-)
:Here's the argument, laid out like a proof in [[formal logic]]:
:#Irrational opposition should be disregarded.
:#Opposition to homosexuality is a phobia.
:#Phobia means irrational hate or fear.
:#Opposition to homosexuality is irrational (2, 3)
:#Opposition to homesexuality should be disregarded. (1, 4)
:The numbers in parentheses refer to the statements in the proof which support inferences. Statements which are not derived are called [[premise]]s.
:You can see that it all hinges on premise #2 Opposition to homosexuality is a phobia. This is the point at which liberals and conservatives part company. Liberals claim that it is '''only''' because of fear or "hate" that people oppose homosexuality.
:While there are some opponents (like that jackass [[Fred Phelps]]) whose opposition is blatantly based on hatred, his perspective is not typical; see [[hate the sin, love the sinner]]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 09:31, 22 November 2007 (EST)