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| | : The argument about "absolute ownership" is circular, and, in any event, contrary to the reality of property law. No ownership is "absolute." Much as it galls me, one's right to own property (in both Britain and the U.S.) is contingent upon the continued payment of property tax (in the case of real estate, anyway), avoiding illegal use of the property (in the case of personalty), and so forth. In short, you're venting about how you'd like things to be, rather than accurately describing how they really are. [[User:QBeam]] 5:32PM (EST) Nov. 27, 2007 | | : The argument about "absolute ownership" is circular, and, in any event, contrary to the reality of property law. No ownership is "absolute." Much as it galls me, one's right to own property (in both Britain and the U.S.) is contingent upon the continued payment of property tax (in the case of real estate, anyway), avoiding illegal use of the property (in the case of personalty), and so forth. In short, you're venting about how you'd like things to be, rather than accurately describing how they really are. [[User:QBeam]] 5:32PM (EST) Nov. 27, 2007 |
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| − | Your conclusions are not supported by the authorities cited herein. First, do not assume European definitions of land ownership are in force and effect. Second, at the founding of the nation, the sovereignty of the people was recognized by the government. Third, sovereignty and property are inseparable. Fourth, there are NO tax levies on private property. All ad valorem taxes are levied on estate NOT private property. I challenge you to produce ONE constitutional clause that delegates the power to tax private property. Fifth, no state requires the recording of private property transactions. | + | Your conclusions are not supported by the authorities cited herein. |
| | + | : PRIVATE PROPERTY - As protected from being taken for public uses, is such property as belongs absolutely to an individual, and of which he has the exclusive right of disposition. Property of a specific, fixed and tangible nature, capable of being in possession and transmitted to another, such as houses, lands, and chattels. - - - Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.1217 |
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| − | Assuming that "all land" is real estate is not supported by the legal definitions. Failure to recognize the difference leads you to make erroneous conclusions. | + | First, do not assume European definitions of land ownership are in force and effect. Second, at the founding of the nation, the sovereignty of the people was recognized by the government. Third, sovereignty and property are inseparable. Fourth, there are NO tax levies on private property. All ad valorem taxes are levied on estate NOT private property. I challenge you to produce ONE constitutional clause that delegates the power to tax private property. Fifth, no state requires the recording of private property transactions. |
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| | + | Assuming that "all land" is real estate is not supported by the legal definitions. |
| | + | LAND. ... The land is one thing, and the estate in land is another thing, for an estate in land is a time in land or |
| | + | land for a time. - - -Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.877 |
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| | + | Failure to recognize the difference leads you to make erroneous conclusions. |
| | --[[User:Jetgraphics|Jetgraphics]] 18:06, 27 November 2007 (EST) | | --[[User:Jetgraphics|Jetgraphics]] 18:06, 27 November 2007 (EST) |
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