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:*That's not a discussion.  That's saying it's simplistic and you're changing it.

:*That's not a discussion.  That's saying it's simplistic and you're changing it.

::*So. You could have asked why I changed it. This is how wiki's work. If you see a mistake, you change it, and if necessary start a discussion. Before you revert a change, what you did, it is customary to discuss the reversion, something you didn't do.  

::*So. You could have asked why I changed it. This is how wiki's work. If you see a mistake, you change it, and if necessary start a discussion. Before you revert a change, what you did, it is customary to discuss the reversion, something you didn't do.  

:*The reparations were to be paid over 42 years.  Of course they were never fully paid, but that's a misnomer isn't it?  Discussions on postponing or changing payments occurred after Germany's financial collapse, and often did not include France.  You are aware of the French occupation of the Ruhr and shooting German workers who tried to walk off the job, right?  While I don't think we need to go into great detail in the Germany article, anything that whitewashes the severity of the reparations as they were put into place and implemented is counter to history.   

:*The reparations were to be paid over 42 years.  Of course they were never fully paid, but that's a misnomer isn't it?  Discussions on postponing or changing payments occurred after Germany's financial collapse, and often did not include France.  You are aware of the French occupation of the Ruhr and shooting German workers who tried to walk off the job, right?  While I don't think we need to go into great detail in the Germany article, anything that whitewashes the severity of the reparations as they were put into place and implemented is counter to history.   

::Discussion about changing the terms of the reparation payments were already going on before the hyper-inflation. Some even accuse t the German government of causing  hyper-inflation  on purpose because to prove the point at the negotiation table that the payments were unreasonable.  

::Discussion about changing the terms of the reparation payments were already going on before the hyper-inflation. Some even accuse t the German government of causing  hyper-inflation  on purpose because to prove the point at the negotiation table that the payments were unreasonable.

:*Domestic economy is directly related to external conditions.  One of the "nicer" terms was a 12.5% tax on all exports.  If that was done in America, do you think it would have an impact on our Domestic economy even though it only deals with exports?  They're all inter-related.

:*Domestic economy is directly related to external conditions.  One of the "nicer" terms was a 12.5% tax on all exports.  If that was done in America, do you think it would have an impact on our Domestic economy even though it only deals with exports?  They're all inter-related.

::Sure they are. But saying that Hitler was caused by hyper-inflation, was caused by the treaty of Versailles, is just an excuse. Neither of them was inevitable.  

::Sure they are. But saying that Hitler was caused by hyper-inflation, was caused by the treaty of Versailles, is just an excuse. Neither of them was inevitable.

:*Hitler was a struggling artist who was able to found a movement that slowly gained power.  Political movements are formed over time.  Based on what you are saying above, the occupation of any person in power would always be political activist.  Hitler's attempt to rise to power predated the 1930's by many years.  Mein Kampf sold because he was in prison because of his earlier unsuccesful attempts at activism.  And he was, in those turbulent times, one of many.

:*Hitler was a struggling artist who was able to found a movement that slowly gained power.  Political movements are formed over time.  Based on what you are saying above, the occupation of any person in power would always be political activist.  Hitler's attempt to rise to power predated the 1930's by many years.  Mein Kampf sold because he was in prison because of his earlier unsuccesful attempts at activism.  And he was, in those turbulent times, one of many.

::When did his struggling as an artist happened? In the 1910s. At the time of the depression he was not struggling, so it wasn't a struggling artist that got to power, but a political activist and politician, who he made money selling his book and by donations from political friends. Just like others, indeed, but he wasn't struggling as an artist when the Depression started.

::When did his struggling as an artist happened? In the 1910s. At the time of the depression he was not struggling, so it wasn't a struggling artist that got to power, but a political activist and politician, who he made money selling his book and by donations from political friends. Just like others, indeed, but he wasn't struggling as an artist when the Depression started.

:*Hitler seized power as soon as he was able.

:*Hitler seized power as soon as he was able.

::Hitler was able to seize power, because certain people let him seize power. There was no coup, he legally got into power, partly through elections, but in the end by a deal he struck with von Papen who was a tad naive about Hitler.

::Hitler was able to seize power, because certain people let him seize power. There was no coup, he legally got into power, partly through elections, but in the end by a deal he struck with von Papen who was a tad naive about Hitler.

:*I am open for discussion on any of the word choices I made to the article, but don't just change it and have us work from your version.  There was no section at all until I put one in last week.  If it was a topic that you have to see written a certain way, then perhaps you should have entered it sometime during the many months it was vacant. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 19:33, 27 November 2007 (EST)

:*I am open for discussion on any of the word choices I made to the article, but don't just change it and have us work from your version.  There was no section at all until I put one in last week.  If it was a topic that you have to see written a certain way, then perhaps you should have entered it sometime during the many months it was vacant. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 19:33, 27 November 2007 (EST)

:: I think that this the interbellum shouldn't be discussed in to much detail this article. We got articles on Weimar, Hitler, and WWII. We should keep it brief, link to those articles, and avoid the simplistic myth, that the 3rd Reich was an immediate cause of the treaty of Versailles. And I see now reason why we would be able to agree on that. And btw, I did work from your version, and merged it with bit I took from other articles on CP. [[User:Order|Order]] 20:08, 27 November 2007 (EST)

:: I think that this the interbellum shouldn't be discussed in to much detail this article. We got articles on Weimar, Hitler, and WWII. We should keep it brief, link to those articles, and avoid the simplistic myth, that the 3rd Reich was an immediate cause of the treaty of Versailles. And I see now reason why we would be able to agree on that. And btw, I did work from your version, and merged it with bit I took from other articles on CP. [[User:Order|Order]] 20:08, 27 November 2007 (EST)

==Revert War ==

==Revert War ==

Learn Together. Why did you revert my version? I even accommodated some of your changes. If you don't want to work together, say it. [[User:Order|Order]] 20:10, 27 November 2007 (EST)

Learn Together. Why did you revert my version? I even accommodated some of your changes. If you don't want to work together, say it. [[User:Order|Order]] 20:10, 27 November 2007 (EST)

In particular I would like to know what part of version A  isn't covered by  version B in you opinion, that justifies your reversion:

In particular I would like to know what part of version A  isn't covered by  version B in you opinion, that justifies your reversion: